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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

IANAL but in my reading of the text of the bill the only way for a married woman that took her partner's last name (that wasn't in the military with her married name) to be able to vote if this becomes law is for them to spend at least $30 to get a USA Passport card. This would tick all the boxes the bill requires for these women:

  • Government ID
  • Shows citizenship status (by nature of it being a Passport)
  • Shows place of birth
  • Shows the married last name

...or as I'm calling it:

This is violation of the 24th Amendment banning poll Taxes.

In this case, its a required fee married women must pay to be able to use their Constitutional guaranteed right to vote granted by the 19th Amendment. How is this not a poll tax by another name on married women?

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

At this point the constitution is more of a guideline.

[-] unphazed@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

To the GOP it's just rough paper to wipe their asses.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 2 months ago

Worse getting the card is a major pita with the documentation and photo and having to mail it for first time.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Consider this too. A woman has all of her ducks in a row with her married last name, and then divorces her POS republican husband. Now she needs to re-establish her identity all over again.

For the ladies out there (or anyone getting married) keep your last name. My partner kept theirs, and it tickles them pink when the systemic chauvinism gets reversed and I get called by their last name.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

My partner kept theirs, and it tickles them pink when the systemic chauvinism gets reversed and I get called by their last name.

Same here. :)

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[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It always seems to me that this wouldn't be such a big problem if the US had a working bureaucracy. I know $30 can be a significant sum (plus the pictures and other expenses) but it would be less of a hurdle if

  • relevant offices were within reasonable distance
  • they were sufficiently manned
  • all or part of the process could be done online
  • the government actually strives to make these processes as user-friendly as possible

This is something Americans rarely talk about because it's just assumed that everybody knows? Maybe somebody could explain to a EU dweller.

edit: maybe I didn't phrase this properly. I'm fully aware that preventing people from voting has a long "tradition" in the US; my question was more general I guess, and meant as an "in addition to the points already mentioned".

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[-] LMurch@thelemmy.club 20 points 2 months ago

But that means something like 204 democrats voted against. Maybe if those 4 hadn't of supported the bill, it might have failed, but you can't blame the democrats for a shitty bill when 97% voted against.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

It still would have passed. 208-212

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[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

No Democrat should vote for a single Nazi bill, ever.

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[-] TripleIris@lemmy.wtf 15 points 1 month ago

It's not these four cowardly DINOs that make me lose faith in this country. It's the people continuing to defend them.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I don't think anyone defends them.

[-] dick_fineman@discuss.online 15 points 2 months ago
[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Or at least vote for the progressive in the primary first.

[-] Mcdolan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Nah, people running under the progressive name need to know we're done fucking around.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Police love to send out provocateurs to start trouble and give them an excuse to crack down.

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[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This headline is horseshit so I've only read enough to establish that much and am ignoring the rest of the article. Someone post a different one.

Here's all you need to know from the article:

Republicans, and apparently some Democrats

many have warned that it could even make it harder for married women to vote.

The only conclusion you should draw is this: Marin Scotten of the New Republic is full of shit and shall not be trusted ever. You may conclude as you wish about all other matters based on other sources.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're being extreme. I suppose headline is misleading because the bill would have passed without Democrat support, and it doesn't directly restrict the voting of married women. But four house democrats did vote for this (presumably because they're in swing districts or border towns?), and the premise (requiring proof of citizenship is soft voter supression) appears to be true.

But you are touching on something I feel. Lots of really sensationalist sources float to the top of Lemmy's front page.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

New Republic is the worst. The Trump administration already does a lot of really awful, shitty, terrible things that deserve sunlight without sensationalizing shit, but they make a lot of sensationalist articles and a lot of "Oh Boy this ONE maga voter is really sorry now!" pieces. It's got big institutional Democrat energy.

That said, yes, the headline is indirectly correct.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This headline is horseshit

The legislation fucks with the ability for women who change their last name after marriage to obtain the IDs necessary to cast a ballot, which are increasingly fixated on tying everything back to your Birth Certificate. Four Democrats supported this bill, ostensibly in order to fuck over Transgender people.

Incidentally, one of the four - Henry Cuellar - is indicted on charges of bribery, unlawful foreign influence, and money laundering, allegedly accepting nearly $600,000 in bribes from foreign entities in exchange for political favors. Crazy that Dem megadonors continue to back him in election after election.

Marin Scotten of the New Republic is full of shit and shall not be trusted ever.

My guy, you're the one spewing horseshit here.

[-] yagurlreese@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

right I thought I was waking up in crazy town. many women change their names and do not update their birth certificate My therapist was literally telling me about her issues with doing it because she's been divorced a couple times this legislation directly impacts women and trans people specifically. It is intentionally written to make it harder for people in these groups to vote me personally I'm in the middle of getting my birth certificate updated so I'm hoping it won't be a problem by the time midterms come up, but overall this bill is a bad bill it's not needed there's no need for this bill it's absolutely pointless and pathetic attempt at voter manipulation

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[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

“Four democrats passed this,” but we are just going to ignore the 216 conservatives that passed it?

So when do we get to start calling bullshit like this propaganda?

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

"man bites dog" vs "dog bites man"

We all know what the Republicans unanimously stand for. Apparently some democrats do too, and that's worth noting.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

People expect the representative they voted for to vote how they want. Conservatives' representative voted as they wanted. Whereas Democrats' representative voted against their wishes. Hence the outrage.

This is a simplistic explanation, 4 Democratic representative might have voted as their constituents have demanded.

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[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Everyone expects the scorpion to stab the frog, it's in its nature.

Everyone expects Republicans to be totally corrupt monsters.

The people we are supposed to depend on to fight monsters keep helping them pass bills when they could be blocking them.

This means they are complicit. There's always enough traitors to make the bad things pass, never enough cooperation to make the good things pass when they have a majority.

The Democrats have been playing this game for too long and it's saf you haven't started to notice too.

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[-] Gowron_Howard@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

Wonder how much they’re getting paid?

[-] goofus@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

Jared Golden, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, Henry Cuellar, and Ed Case

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[-] thedruid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

they are called collaborators. Nazi Collaborators..

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