I have written several proposals for my employer based on this kind of thinking. We have some kind of issue, I push it to the back of my mind, weeks later the issue still exists and I'm listening to a totally unrelated podcast and something the host or guest says triggers a series of seemingly unrelated thoughts and suddenly I have a solution to the issue.
My department head once asked me how I come up with these solutions, I smiled and said I have ADHD and listen to podcasts. He just looked at me with a blank stare then said that doesn't make sense. I just laughed a little and said, I know but it's hard to explain how things connect in my mind, the podcasts just help me brainstorm. He just smiled, shook his head, and said well what ever works I guess.
I'd recommend reading Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World. I'm not sure that all the claims hold up to scrutiny, but it's nice to see a book that notes the way I like to think has real world application.
Somethings I suspect you're doing are:
Analogical Thinking of Deep Structures to create an Outside View (Chapter 5)
Spacing which gives time away from a problem and asks part of the mind to re-collect the issue so you know those deeper structures well. This is presented in the chapter on learning, but I suspect it's relevant here (Chapter 4)
Oddly enough, if your boss wants to foster creative problem solving for novel problems, this book might convince him to give you more latitude and resources to do your thing.
So I just got done reading up on this book and ordered a copy. Thanks, I might also grab the audiobook since I sometimes have problems focusing on reading, and listening to a book is the only way I can finish it.
Funnily enough the boss is extremely open to new ideas and recognizes that I'm ready to move on. He's already told me that he's petitioning for extra budget now that we have surplus money company wide so that he can move me and two others up into low level management in project management roles. As he said the project management title will be fluid since each of you will be doing wildly different things based on your strengths.
I'm down for it since the majority of the things he says he wants to assign me are things I want to do. Sure there's a few things I'm not crazy about, but they aren't anywhere near deal breakers.
Text to speech is a good idea but it would have to be natural sounding, I find the typical ones are robotic sounding and distracting, for me at least.
Yeah he's a good guy, we actually graduated together but were just casual acquaintances at that time. A few years back I was covering a holiday and it was just the two of us, nothing going on so we sat at my desk and started talking about highschool, after a while we got to talking about what we saw as the future of the department (he had just been promoted to head the department) and we found out we shared a bunch of ideas. He's never said anything but I wouldn't be surprised if he's had to slow roll my promotion because of the highschool ties.
Check out elevenlabs. They used to do a reader I liked, Omnivore. It's pretty natural sounding. As of now, it's free, but I like it.
Glad you two clicked. It's nice knowing someone out there has similar ideas and a different way of solving problems.
I tried to get an ADHD diagnosis a year ago. The practitioner basically said no but it was hard for her because I was so on the line. But when I hear the litany of behaviors by a subset of people with ADHD, it can bring me to tears because it's nice to see I'm not the only one.
I actually recently checked out elevenlabs, the free tier seemed so limited it didn't seem like it would work, maybe I'll have to check them out again and dig a little deeper. Thanks for the suggestion.
Yeah I lucked out with him for sure. The guy he replaced was good, but still operated with an old school corporate mindset.
I got lucky with my diagnosis, my doctor also had ADHD and even though I still had to do the testing to be sure he basically diagnosed me on our first visit. He was also able to teach me how to manage my impulses and channel the energy into projects I can get passionate about. If you are right on the edge I'd seek a second opinion, I'm not knocking the previous doctor but a different one might pick up on something that would put you over the threshold.
If nothing else research coping strategies on your own. Check out this ADHD life, I connected with him years ago through comedy podcast we both listened to and he's got some great resources.
Believe it or not, that was my first impression as well. I really didn't use it because it seemed like it would end up costing me money. But about a month ago, they sent out a survey asking why I wasn't using it. I suspect we werent the only ones not giving it a shake. I didn't do the survey, but it reminded me to give it a try. Throwing this book in there has been great and the free AI voices have a nice flow for the most part.
Much more than the diagnosis, I've been more interested in the coping techniques. I don't think my manifestation is so bad that I need medication, though I was sincerely curious if it would change things for the better. I might try for a second opinion. The practitioner even gave a reference for someone who died more comprehensive testing, but she doesn't take insurance. So I'm waffling a bit.
I'll check out this ADHD life. I feel like it's been mentioned in other communities, but honestly can't remember.
Yeah I'm definitely going to have to take a second look at that, I may soon have to read a bunch of government rules and regulations documents if I get a promotion I'm shooting for, and being able to have that read them to me would be a huge help.
The only reason I would say you should still try for a diagnosis is that it would allow you to request minor accommodations to help you at work. My supervisor knows about my diagnosis and knows that I'm going to show inactive from time to time because I've taken a break to rest my brain by goofing off on my phone. She also knows that I'm still at my computer and ready to take a call if one comes in during that time. I admit I got lucky with my boss, and not every employer will allow that kind of thing, but it's worth a shot, my boss saw how my productivity stayed up when I took small breaks vs. when I didn't, so that helped. If you have a good relationship with your boss then maybe research work place coping techniques and develop a plan for how to use them. Then go to your boss and explain that while you did not get diagnosed you were right on the edge and you want to try these techniques to help you improve your productivity.
Yeah this ADHD life is good, I haven't been through the site in a few years but I doubt it's gotten worse since my last time there and it was already recommendation worthy back then. Honestly I bet you could find a bunch of coping techniques right on the site.
Side note, if you do get diagnosed and the doctor mentions neurofeedback do it if you can. My doctor took part in the trials for ADHD and I was one of the test subjects. After two years of training and testing I gained a ton of control, not 100% of course, but enough that I've never been prescribed medication.
Yeah it's weird, you would think it would distract you but it doesn't. On the music thing, I've found that classical music helps me focus but other types don't. To be specific piano and violin music seems to work best for me. But that's really only when I'm writing, when I'm working on a problem podcasts, audiobooks, and music I've heard a million times already work just fine, new music will distract me though, it has to be stuff I already know.
I have written several proposals for my employer based on this kind of thinking. We have some kind of issue, I push it to the back of my mind, weeks later the issue still exists and I'm listening to a totally unrelated podcast and something the host or guest says triggers a series of seemingly unrelated thoughts and suddenly I have a solution to the issue.
My department head once asked me how I come up with these solutions, I smiled and said I have ADHD and listen to podcasts. He just looked at me with a blank stare then said that doesn't make sense. I just laughed a little and said, I know but it's hard to explain how things connect in my mind, the podcasts just help me brainstorm. He just smiled, shook his head, and said well what ever works I guess.
I'd recommend reading Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World. I'm not sure that all the claims hold up to scrutiny, but it's nice to see a book that notes the way I like to think has real world application.
Somethings I suspect you're doing are:
Oddly enough, if your boss wants to foster creative problem solving for novel problems, this book might convince him to give you more latitude and resources to do your thing.
So I just got done reading up on this book and ordered a copy. Thanks, I might also grab the audiobook since I sometimes have problems focusing on reading, and listening to a book is the only way I can finish it.
Funnily enough the boss is extremely open to new ideas and recognizes that I'm ready to move on. He's already told me that he's petitioning for extra budget now that we have surplus money company wide so that he can move me and two others up into low level management in project management roles. As he said the project management title will be fluid since each of you will be doing wildly different things based on your strengths.
I'm down for it since the majority of the things he says he wants to assign me are things I want to do. Sure there's a few things I'm not crazy about, but they aren't anywhere near deal breakers.
Awesome. I've been feeding the ebook into a text to speech reader. It's been working for me.
I'm glad to hear you have a boss that's open to your mode of thinking. Good luck and I wish you well!
Text to speech is a good idea but it would have to be natural sounding, I find the typical ones are robotic sounding and distracting, for me at least.
Yeah he's a good guy, we actually graduated together but were just casual acquaintances at that time. A few years back I was covering a holiday and it was just the two of us, nothing going on so we sat at my desk and started talking about highschool, after a while we got to talking about what we saw as the future of the department (he had just been promoted to head the department) and we found out we shared a bunch of ideas. He's never said anything but I wouldn't be surprised if he's had to slow roll my promotion because of the highschool ties.
Check out elevenlabs. They used to do a reader I liked, Omnivore. It's pretty natural sounding. As of now, it's free, but I like it.
Glad you two clicked. It's nice knowing someone out there has similar ideas and a different way of solving problems.
I tried to get an ADHD diagnosis a year ago. The practitioner basically said no but it was hard for her because I was so on the line. But when I hear the litany of behaviors by a subset of people with ADHD, it can bring me to tears because it's nice to see I'm not the only one.
PM work can be fun for sure.
I actually recently checked out elevenlabs, the free tier seemed so limited it didn't seem like it would work, maybe I'll have to check them out again and dig a little deeper. Thanks for the suggestion.
Yeah I lucked out with him for sure. The guy he replaced was good, but still operated with an old school corporate mindset.
I got lucky with my diagnosis, my doctor also had ADHD and even though I still had to do the testing to be sure he basically diagnosed me on our first visit. He was also able to teach me how to manage my impulses and channel the energy into projects I can get passionate about. If you are right on the edge I'd seek a second opinion, I'm not knocking the previous doctor but a different one might pick up on something that would put you over the threshold.
If nothing else research coping strategies on your own. Check out this ADHD life, I connected with him years ago through comedy podcast we both listened to and he's got some great resources.
Believe it or not, that was my first impression as well. I really didn't use it because it seemed like it would end up costing me money. But about a month ago, they sent out a survey asking why I wasn't using it. I suspect we werent the only ones not giving it a shake. I didn't do the survey, but it reminded me to give it a try. Throwing this book in there has been great and the free AI voices have a nice flow for the most part.
Much more than the diagnosis, I've been more interested in the coping techniques. I don't think my manifestation is so bad that I need medication, though I was sincerely curious if it would change things for the better. I might try for a second opinion. The practitioner even gave a reference for someone who died more comprehensive testing, but she doesn't take insurance. So I'm waffling a bit.
I'll check out this ADHD life. I feel like it's been mentioned in other communities, but honestly can't remember.
Cheers!
Yeah I'm definitely going to have to take a second look at that, I may soon have to read a bunch of government rules and regulations documents if I get a promotion I'm shooting for, and being able to have that read them to me would be a huge help.
The only reason I would say you should still try for a diagnosis is that it would allow you to request minor accommodations to help you at work. My supervisor knows about my diagnosis and knows that I'm going to show inactive from time to time because I've taken a break to rest my brain by goofing off on my phone. She also knows that I'm still at my computer and ready to take a call if one comes in during that time. I admit I got lucky with my boss, and not every employer will allow that kind of thing, but it's worth a shot, my boss saw how my productivity stayed up when I took small breaks vs. when I didn't, so that helped. If you have a good relationship with your boss then maybe research work place coping techniques and develop a plan for how to use them. Then go to your boss and explain that while you did not get diagnosed you were right on the edge and you want to try these techniques to help you improve your productivity.
Yeah this ADHD life is good, I haven't been through the site in a few years but I doubt it's gotten worse since my last time there and it was already recommendation worthy back then. Honestly I bet you could find a bunch of coping techniques right on the site.
Side note, if you do get diagnosed and the doctor mentions neurofeedback do it if you can. My doctor took part in the trials for ADHD and I was one of the test subjects. After two years of training and testing I gained a ton of control, not 100% of course, but enough that I've never been prescribed medication.
Wow, this also helps me with thinking! Just hearing people talk helps me think. Music is focus too much on it and can't work.
Yeah it's weird, you would think it would distract you but it doesn't. On the music thing, I've found that classical music helps me focus but other types don't. To be specific piano and violin music seems to work best for me. But that's really only when I'm writing, when I'm working on a problem podcasts, audiobooks, and music I've heard a million times already work just fine, new music will distract me though, it has to be stuff I already know.
About the same ! Classical kind of works. But yeah can't listen to anything new either or I focus on it