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Never have I been in so much pain in my LIFE SMH

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[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 72 points 1 day ago

I believe I read that "women are unreliable informants of pain due to emotions. Where as a man can suppress his emotions and you get a real assessment of his pain." Or something like that.

I'm a man, and, it doesn't take a lot of study to know that pain is very different from emotional stress, especially when it involves GENITALS.

Since being seen by a neurologist for carpal tunnel, i have come to the conclusion that some doctors are just plain sadists. And I wonder if all this maltreatment of women came from some early docs that got together and went "y'know, we could cherry pick things here or there so we can get some good screams out of patients." It worked too well, and they decided to protect it through practice because it was too much fun.

But I know the reality is that medicine is just plain sexist, and historically women were just "less important." It's fucked up.

[-] Zenith@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago

I have cystic fibrosis so I’m a professional patient since birth. I don’t actually believe most doctors are sadist, maybe a good chunk of surgeons though… I think it’s more that med school is its own sort of brain washing, the worship of protocol and deep seated beliefs of the quality of their knowledge churns out doctors who have been through the ringer and can become self righteous because of it, it’s incredibly rigorous, you’re sleep deprived, you’re being fed knowledge for hours and hours a day… it makes you incredibly susceptible to accepting knowledge without question. A lot of them need to believe what their doing is humane, is correct, that thier knowledge is valid so it justifies their whatever is happening and their knowledge also already told them how much this hurts, they don’t get knowledge from patients just information.

The way doctors are trained is a huge part of the problem, the way patient care is approached is just as bad, it goes back to academia as well, most studies do not include women in any capacity so their experiences are not reflected in the knowledge doctors do have. I think most doctors are normal people with good and bad traits and approach medicine in the way they were taught to, medicine as an institution simply does not value the experience of the patient, only the outcome of the treatment on the physical body, as if the mind, where pain happens to happen, is divorced from the body.

[-] arality@programming.dev 25 points 21 hours ago

i have come to the conclusion that some doctors are just plain sadists.

A few years ago I was in therapy for my shoulder. A new guy started, and we were small talking. He mentions he hopes the economy doesn't become socialist, because then he won't make as much money being a docter when he's finished with school. We've completely lost the plot.