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You know who else had to cut a whole bunch of content for a lack of time and still managed to deliver a truly perfect "both sides suck" storyline?
Fallout New Vegas
. Stop making excuses
This is Bioshock Infinite erasure.
Daisy did nothing wrong
The NCR is unironically way better tho
Caesar's Legion are literal slavers while the main criticism of the NCR was "muh taxes"
The main criticism of the NCR is that it's a dying overextended Empire that can't take care of its own people and enjoys the occasional genocide. First as tragedy then as Fallout New Vegas
Also the fact that it's clearly dying means it's just going to suck resources out of Vegas to enrich itself to delay its inevitable collapse
Literally, if Chief Hanlon's statements on fresh water sources in the NCR is to be believed.
They would use money from the strip to fund the construction of the aqueduct they'd use to drain every last drop of the Colorado River to divert it to incredibly destructive brahmin ranches that will inevitably be wiped out by some FEV-derived zoonotic disease right around the time Shady Sands is being nuked by Vault-Tec
It already is. Characters mention that most of the energy produced by Hoover dam is sent to the NCR, bypassing the Mojave. That's why Helios One exists as a choice.
If the alternative is that world just playing Mad Max forever, I'm supporting the best chance it has at a halfway decent, stable unified governance/society, warts and all.
The real alternative is the axed Followers of the Apocalypse questline that would have made an actual independent Vegas that lasted beyond the courier's lifespan possible.
to be fair aside from the unavoidable "and some people died during the battle :(" slide, the independent ending that made it to release doesn't seem all that bad either. i just wish the aesthetics of the independent ending were less "anarchy fuck yeah" and more "the conditions were right for a near autonomous bastion city of the wastes"
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It's a vidjagame, not theory, easy. lol
You didn't have to do Disco Elysium fans wrong like this.
lol
And no hard feelings, I know NCR ain't perfect. I'm just a One World (Ideally Communist) Government type guy, why I supported the Empire in Skyrim as well.
This is why you install At Your Own Pace which just skips the stupid peace summit in its entirety
I've beaten Skyrim like 3 times and I don't think I've ever had to endure the peace summit. Or maybe I was so bored I just repressed the memory.
That one is a Sophie's choice of the Klan vs elf nazi lapdogs. I'd take my chances with the Daedra
I suppose my headcanon is that maybe one day the Empire can regather it's strength enough to beat the Dominion in round 2, especially with the help of various magic Hero-kuns
I literally didn't even realize that whole empire/nord thing was supposed to be the main quest in skyrim, I ignored it completely and just ran around fighting dragons
The Civil War questline runs parallel to the main quest, but you need to interact with it in order to kickstart the last part of the main quest.
You can beat the game without finishing it by getting everyone to do a meeting at the Greybeards's place to discuss a cease-fire while you do dragonborn shit, which is a neat quest idea, just not executed very well. If you finish the Civil War quest you skip this entirely.
It's also a recreation of the liberal capitalist order that nuked the world
The NCR effectively treats the Mojave as a colony, extracting energy and food in exchange of tenuous and corrupt control,, and failing, unequal infrastructure. Mojave wastelanders are not citizens of the NCR, and are recurrently controlled and brutalized in order to maintain the imperial core.
Yes man is the only anti imperialist choice in fnv
Independent Vegas is best Vegas
I just side with the Boomers and Yes Man. Then kill Caesar's Legion and handle NCR case by case.