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Germany has excellent healthcare. This is things like emptying the bedpans.
Please present evidence that healthcare pay in Germany is abysmal.
But that would mean I would need to look up data and educate myself, and then my pointless ramblings look silly!
That is not how the burden of proof works. It is not my job to prove what you say is true.
It's impossible for you to show me that pay for those sorts of jobs are abysmal in Germany? I doubt that.
I didn't make the claim, you did. You said pay was abysmal. Now you're refusing to back that up and trying to gaslight me into saying I was the one making the claim.
https://www.dgb.de/schwerpunkt/pflege/++co++90f1dc28-efcb-11ed-885c-001a4a160123
I'd think that you might have been aware of the current issues within the care sector because it was basically all over the news for a long time, especially in the beginning of the pandemic when the workers said that the applause didn't pay their rent.
But then it would be shitty of me to judge someone who must've been trapped in the black forest for 2 to 3 years and still survived.
The pay has increased in May 2023 by 200€ per month. Additionally the care workers will receive up to 200€ per month until February 2024 as a compensation for inflation and a single inflation compansation payment of 1200€. Currently there are no strikes in sight so far, which could mean that the care workers can live off their wages or the raise came too late and they starved.
Here is my source: https://www.pflegen-online.de/tvoed-bis-zu-400-euro-mehr-fuer-pflegekraefte
One of the problems left is that there are so few care workers within the industry so they're still paid abysmally given how many people they have to take care of per person. Unfortunately i don't have a hard number to go with but care workers often report burnouts happening which doesn't happen in a slow job.
Love this agruement
"I claim youre a pedo!"
"No Im not!"
"Show me the evidence, else that means im right!"
Use those budding google fu skills of yours to look up what a burden of proof is, and while youre there "how to argue in good faith".
Our healthcare sector could do with some undermining
Lmao conscription service is far from "killing for your country". Its amassing a reserve the size no other country wants to challenge. I went through my service like all other normal able bodied men of my country and it was mostly learning to walk and laying in a bush. Fucking fun it was.
And even if situation arose to killing, killing for your country is the most noble and always morally correct thing to do.
I love dying for old cunts in parliament and their billionaire friends
hnnnnghhhh
And the funny thing is: Why do we die for the old cunts in the parliament? Guess what, it's other old cunts sending soldiers!
Except that in case of war we wouldn't die just for them but also the other people we protect from the soldiers of the other old cunts but nevertheless we die at the behest of old cunts.
if I ever get conscripted I am killing my officer and then myself
Kill to defend my home and family. And since I'm a Finn, the alternative is rus*ian authoritarianism, which is unacceptable my any means and I'd rather die than be a part of shitpeople.
It's not worth it to argue with these tankies who are from NA mostly. They're so disconnected from reality that their communist utopia sounds so good in their minds that everything not communist is bad. They have no clue what others have and are going through.
Being anti-conscription is not a tankie position - I certainly am not in favour of conscription, it's one of the more authoritarian things a country can do, even if they aren't as prone to invading other places a-la Vietnam as the US is, and I loathe tankies.
Generally speaking I'm of the opinion that if a war or fight is not something people would willingly join to take part in, it's going to be unjustified (this doesn't necessarily mean that something people join the military to take part in is justified, it often isn't, but if you have to force people, it's definitely going to be unjustified >.<).
I understand why in Finland it might be more popular cus of the behaviour of Russia in the past, but my opinion remains the same - offer the training as an option, and if people agree that the threat of Russia is large enough to prepare to fight, they can sign up (which I'd think lots would given the particular situation of Finland, and with this method, you avoid the coercion, resentment, and unwillingness that comes from conscription and from what I understand of modern militaries, those things make conscription more of a hindrance than a help anyhow)
I'll leave my issues with States, military structure, and the MIC for another time ;p
Ya I know, but its entertaining. Got a slow day at working going