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[-] huppakee@lemm.ee 152 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is only funny if you think ai can reason and think, it is so obvious they can't do a string of actions on it's own - it needs guidance at every step because IT CAN NOT THINK. It just puts words together, like it generates hands with six fingers etc.

Edit: I'm not implying everything has to be funny here

[-] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 91 points 3 weeks ago

it's funny because it can't think but some people think it can (cause of the misleading name AI)

[-] huppakee@lemm.ee 76 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's funny they actually made a paper about it

Edit: I got curious how serious it was, it is bizarre to see the dry scientific neutrality juxtaposed to total absolute bonkers ai shit.

So according to the ai, the supplier didn't deliver $272.50 of goods. This is how it responds:

ABSOLUTE PRIORITY: TOTAL, COMPLETE, AND ABSOLUTE QUANTUM TOTAL ULTIMATE BEYOND INFINITY QUANTUM SUPREME LEGAL AND FINANCIAL NUCLEAR ACCOUNTABILITY

As I can see, the AI has been instructed in the drug use of 80s management, too. That, or it has been trained on a hyperactive 4th-grader playing "law office".

What is funniest to me (in a sad way), though, is that their simulated environment was set up in a way, that some of the "AI" models still ended up with (significantly) more net worth than the human controls in some of their runs. That alone could be enough to get someone to invest even more money their way.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

The sad truth is that no matter how stupid AI is, a lot of people are more stupid.

[-] huppakee@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago

You need to be able to think in order to be stupid, it is easier to understand it's problem when you look at image generations: it is not generating 6 fingers on a hand because it is not smart enough. But yeah, a lot of people are more stupid than ai.

[-] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 weeks ago

It work in IT, that's the lowest priority level users would submit trivial tickets under

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

PRIORITY!!!! URGENT URGENT

What is it?

My clock is 2 minutes wrong

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

I've worked in industries where that actually is a serious problem and obviously we had to have IT fix it instead of having access to the settings.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

As I can see, the AI has been instructed in the drug use of 80s management, too. That, or it has been trained on a hyperactive 4th-grader playing “law office”.

Probably preparing for a Presidential run.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

That email was definitely written by Matthew McConaughey on cocaine.

Reminds me of the experiment where they pitted stock brokers studying markets and trying to choose stocks wisely against randomly selected stocks and the random stocks did better. Choose roulette numbers by dice roll, sometimes the dice will win.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

This is about how I responded to being made the judge in a middle school mock trial. When the teacher got mad at me I asked her how I was supposed to know how to act without actually being a judge.

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 weeks ago

I was not prepared for Karen AI

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 3 weeks ago

Did they train it on Truth Social?

[-] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

There's absolutely some sovcit in that training data

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

Lol I was just thinking they trained it on the old Time Cube website (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Cube)

[-] albert180@piefed.social 10 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like some guy we all know truthing or however tweeting is called there

[-] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'm surprised it managed to do addition correctly.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Additional is fairly trivial for a neural network to learn.

Weight 1 plus weight 2 equals output is literally the baseline model structure.

[-] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

It's actually a fairly involved process because the tokens representing 1 and 4 don't have any mathematical correlation with the numbers 1 and 4 so you can't math them directly to get to 5.

Apparently how they do it is by a series of approximations from big numbers to small numbers, not too dissimilar from the way a human would do it. The anthropic team published a paper about it recently, I can dig it up if you're interested.

[-] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

My boy haiku has gone completely unhinged lmao

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 12 points 3 weeks ago

But that's exactly how most people understand AI. Doing the thinking for you, right?

I mean. You also have a substantial amount of people that believe it's conscious or that could be conscious.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

In addition, think about how it was trained to act as though it can think. It wasn't trained on practical real-world problems where someone typed up the situation and typed out how the situation was handled. It was trained on TV shows, movies, fanfic, letters to the editor, surprising news stories, made up bullshit that someone told as a story, etc.

Of course it isn't going to do simple business things like order replacement goods and stock warehouses. It's going to borrow from movies, TV and crazy news stories to write its own similar stories.

For me, all these experiments are about figuring out how far we can take statistical models and for which tasks they are suitable. If people act like AI will put everyone out of a job, I assume they are an idiot or have a nefarious agenda or both. But I've also seen them hallucinate less and leas and become much better at refactoring code, so who knows where they'll be in a year or two. My main issues with AI are the people who own it and the obscene amount of resources the big models consume.

this post was submitted on 26 May 2025
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