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every single one of those 10 photos is literally just women going about their day and the comments is nothing but gooners shocked to learn that iran has hot women too, and now that their attractive women arent covering up, suddenly westoids see the humanity in these people.
every “(middle eastern country) isnt as bad as we’re told” post on the default reddits is exactly like this. on the flip side there’s the “look, (middle eastern country) used to have lots of hot women til islam came along!” posts about afghanistan etc
just seems disgusting to me. they don’t care at all about these people. they’re just fantasizing that maybe somehow they can take advantage of global tensions and somehow end up with a hot iranian wife
I don't think the meme contradicts what you said.
the meme fails because top left and bottom right are ostensibly coerced into their dress should they desire to dress a different way, while the other diagonals are not.
there's a different thing going on with bottom left we could talk about but she could put on a jumper if she wanted and the only consequence would be not having beads thrown at her.
and of course we still have white religious weirdos who would condemn bottom-left and think that about indigenous people so top left hasn't gone away.
You think if you asked the woman in the top left to dress like the native American (I'm assuming that person is native American) that she would do so if she had the freedom to do it? I think you're imposing your views on someone from a WILDLY different walk of life. The people in the top left are usually devout people who would be horrified at the idea of dressing in revealing attire.
There ARE women who are forced to dress a certain way, but on average people from different cultures dress as they personally see appropriate. Nuns for example have all the freedom in the world to dress as they see fit, and yet you'd be hard pressed to get them to dress like the bottom left picture. I think we've reached a point where it's gotten extremely difficult to understand what it even means to say that people 'have a different culture'; it's become hard to understand that people willingly choose to live so differently.
I recall reading about how the English viewed the Irish' punishment for murder, that being the paying of the blood money for murder; they considered the Irish barbaric because they didn't execute murderers; were the Irish being forced by a rich upper class to not just execute murderers? No, they just had a different way of life, and ironically today capital punishment has been done away with in the UK. Similarly if in a few hundred years America becomes more devout, like puritanically more devout, the women in the top left may very well come back to being the norm and they'd be horrified again at the idea of dressing like the lady in the bottom left.
no i think top left might want to wear trousers or something
There are nuns today who dress similarly to that; they have all the freedom in the world to wear trousers but they don't. Puritanical society saw an entire nation of people (both men and women) who chose to dress in such a manner because they were very religious; yes there must have been women who wanted to dress otherwise, but this was the average because they came from very devout societies. Studying history you find people were just extremely different to how people are today; their views were just radically different. Were there individuals who wanted to wear trousers? Surely, but the majority believed this was how they were supposed to dress.
Was anyone forcing them (men and women) to go to church? To pray? No, they chose this for themselves because they were genuinely devout and it reflected in their lives. Heck, whoever was supposedly forcing them, who was forcing those people? These are people from a vastly different lifestyle compared to today.
Nuns are the perfect example; they have the freedom today to dress in trousers and to get an office job, but they choose the life they do because their views are just wildly different to our own.
and how would they be treated if they chose to do so? that's my fucking point. there are/were true believers in these communities, just as there are iconoclasts, and there is/was a spectrum of conformists who might choose something else if it wasn't for the rigid structure limiting their imagination. that latter group too, is oppressed, even if they don't see or mind the chains (but going to far is how you get e.g. the france thing or a hypothetical where not only is nudity decriminalized but pants are outlawed)
Nuns are a terrible example because they're not forced into that by the dominant culture.
I guess the difference here is that I genuinely believe the true believers were the norm; true believers both men AND women. As for the rigid structure limiting the imagination of the conformists, even today we have structures of our own limiting our own imaginations and we're content with these, just as they were content with their own structure. The meme reflects the average lady back in puritan times, not the iconoclast.
You're right that they're not forced into that choice by the dominant culture, and with that freedom of choice what choice are they making? They're not being forced into this choice and they're choosing to live like this, what then do you think when you have a puritanical society where everyone is that devout?