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[-] Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

I forgot how this direction of philosophy was called. Avenarius was one of the main names... But it was debunked by philosophers themselves somewhere in the middle of the XIX century.

[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

My go to response is usually “what do you mean by that?” Generally people say stuff like that to imply it’s impossible to “know” anything. But does it really matter if this is a dream or not?

[-] Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Well, yes. Actually it does matter. Modern materialistic approach lets us assume that physical laws (no matter if we know them or not) are universal and applicable to anything. "Dream" concept leaves us in total chaos without even a theoretical chance to figure out how things work. It even has totally crazy synchronization problems between different "dreamers" if there are a few of them. There isn't a single question that is answered by Machism. Absolute religion-tier stupidity.

So it does matter.

[-] pebbles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Its not so different to Last Thursdayism.

It think its fine if it is used to keep you humble about the limits of knowledge, but I can't imagine using it to support any other point.

[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

“Dream” concept leaves us in total chaos without even a theoretical chance to figure out how things work.

I disagree. There’s no reason the scientific method (observe, question, hypothesize, experiment, record data, draw conclusions) can’t be applied in dreams.

Just because your dreams aren’t consistent or logical doesn’t mean it’s impossible to have a logically consistent dream.

[-] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

This is my thought. If we’re living in some dreamscape, why is physics so ruthlessly inflexible?

[-] UNY0N@linux.community 3 points 2 days ago

Maybe it's not. Maybe we are all tiny parts of same consciousness that creates the dream, which makes it consistent based on our shared expectations, or shared subconscious, or whatever connection it is that makes us one. Or something along these lines.

That would explain the consistency without relying upon rigid materialist laws.

[-] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Physics isn’t solved, so I don’t think it’s fair to call it ruthlessly inflexible. https://youtu.be/nn94mn8ozOI

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In philosophy, It's a core concept called solipsism.

The encouraged answer to it is don't think about it and best to move on, even within philosophy, because asking the questions that actually matter about the nature of the mind and existence, are a terrible drain on productivity and GDP, and those are most certainly real and totes important things that must exist 🤣

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