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[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 44 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thoughts:

  1. Was this just a gesture? Did they even seriously hit Fordow with for example nuclear bunker busters? Because their conventional ones would need several hits for sure success.

  2. Also once again this proves Iran's air defenses are not good folks. They just strolled in. I was thinking originally maybe they hit facilities near the borders with glide bombs but to hit Fordow they'd have to go deep. Is it too much to ask for them to down a B2? Apparently so and it really puts doubt into my mind about those claims of shooting down f-35s from the zionist air force.

This attack was CLEARLY telegraphed. The whole waiting two weeks was such an obvious ruse just as they'd attacked them during talks that if Iran wasn't on full alert they are naive as hell. If they were it shows they're powerless against American air power. I mean WSJ leaked it was happening.

Iran is a sitting duck and it is frustrating to read this. They should have gotten a nuke. They should have expected these bombings and should have developed or bought or stolen better air defenses. They should have chosen at least one of these to do.

Let's say they moved the nuclear materials. But if they did they now have to hide them and move them and hide them and I doubt they have any places as hardened as Fordow. Mossad infiltration is pretty deep so if Iran doesn't go sicko-mode on the US and zionists in response the US will just bomb that new location and act like it's not an act of war.

At this point frankly I don't get the point of bluffing with the uranium enrichment beyond 60%. I understood it to be an Iranian tactic to threaten to get nukes and show they could in order to get concessions in negotiations but given how the west has shown their dishonesty both with Iran and Russia it seems kind of silly at this point. But perhaps they believe in great man politics and hope a Democratic politician will negotiate (and for some reason that a Republican won't just undo it like Trump did).

If it was an empty gesture, if no real damage was done to say Fordow and Trump is just going to declare victory regardless it may be tactically smart for Iran to stay mum on the failure of the strikes and let him have his win. Though the problem with this is Bibi may publicly announce it failed anyways to pressure Trump into more strikes.

If on the other hand these strikes were successful Iran needs to hit back by sinking a carrier group. Closing the strait of Hormuz is an option but one which will fuck up China's economy if maintained for any significant period of time.

Iran however may no matter how bad the damage choose to just grit and bear it. They chose the "poison pill" of the JCPOA after all in 2015 and may choose not to do more than symbolic retaliation which of course emboldens the empire to hit them again and more frequently as well. Iran frankly either stands up right now or they can kiss goodbye any hopes of reclaiming their regional power status. With Hezbollah already on the backfoot and Syria out of the picture their power projection and proxy projects were already fucked up medium-term at least. But if they let the west salami-slice their way to hitting them however they want, decapitations, strategic bombings to take out valuable assets in their borders, etc they cease to be a functioning state and enter Syrian circa 2018 failing state territory where more pushes and shoves will come until they topple them and remove them from the picture.

So I fear the US and the zionist entity slowly strangling and bombing them to death as they turn the other cheek again and again because they fear escalating and allow the salmi-slicing tactics to work.

[-] dead@hexbear.net 42 points 6 months ago

The whole waiting two weeks was such an obvious ruse

I think an important thing to recognize is that Trump makes these highly unpopular decisions on the start of a weekend because the stock market is closed. He did the same thing with some of the tariff announcements.

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

Yeah and it's well known and western media broadcast it. It's such a weak faint, so transparent that if the Iranians were taken in at all by it at this point just.. no words. Not saying they were just saying it would be.

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