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Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an "unprecedented mass deployment" to Europe.

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[-] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 49 points 6 months ago

Anyone else get the feeling WW3 has already started but we just haven't realised it yet?

[-] match@pawb.social 41 points 6 months ago

Imagine starting WW3 the weekend after 3% of your population came out to protest for other reasons. Your war weariness debuff will hit 100% in one turn.

[-] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 15 points 6 months ago

You could argue it started when Russia invaded Ukraine. But I wouldn't mind Trump being forever remembered in history as the instigator.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'd say annexed Crimea. (Unless that's what you meant)

[-] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You're probably right

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

You could also argue it started when the US invaded Iraq

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's not a world war if it's not from the Austrian region of Germany, otherwise it's just sparkling aggression.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 6 months ago

Austrian region of Germany? I presume with that level of geography you must be American.

[-] AgentRocket@feddit.org 8 points 6 months ago

I think it's a joke abaut how closely related the countries were, when they started the first 2 WWs (and maybe Hitler being Austrian)

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

WWII literally began after Austria (Hitler's homeland) was already a region of Germany (since March 38).

wiki/Anschluss
wiki/Reichsgau

[-] Corn@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

Austria had already been annexed by Germany when WWII started

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Also Hitler was Austrian. Also Austrians are Bavarian.

Coincidentally, the current German minister of the interior is Bavarian and facing multiple criminal complaints regarding inciting subordinates to commit crimes.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, like which of the recent events will be in future textbooks as the trigger for WWIII, and how will it all lead back to WWI (like WWII is basically a direct consequence of conditions of pre-WWI and major events related to the war & post-war treaties - WWIII in this config is a consequence of WWI/WWII & the forced hegemony/colonialism of USA that followed).

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 6 months ago

WW2 happened like 25 years after WW1.

It's already been over 80 years since the start of WW2, so I'm not sure you can really assume that they'll be that related.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

So what caused WWII?

I assume your answer is 'one man'?

In the same way "terrorist groups" arent created by the dominant force exerting mass injustice?

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There's no singular cause of WW2. However, in retrospect, many people would say when Germany invaded Poland.

That said, USSR and Finland were already fighting at that point, as well as Japan and China. It's not a clear line.

Why would you assume that my answer would be "one man"? It was an incredibly complex conflict that was really a collection of smaller regional conflicts with various allies between them.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah. It feels that way. What defines a world war anyway? Is it just when "most" countries become engaged in a major conflict?

[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago

WW3 is any ruler biggest dream because it would grant them the highest amount of power they can get. WW3 won't happen as long as people refuse to go to war because rulers never fight their wars and they need pawns who do die for them. You will get a world war once enough people get brainwashed to fought one. Watch out for government and war propaganda.

[-] Bouzou@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

My God though, can you imagine magas abiding by wartime rationing?? People lost their shit when they were asked, "Please maybe just don't sneeze on strangers in public 5 times a week.."

[-] taterthotsalad@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago

Doomer brain is toxic. WWIII will be a clear line. They have been.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Both world wars look like "clear lines" to you after the fact. Of course you can just point at, say, Ferdinand getting assassinated and go "yeah that's what started WW I" but do you think anyone at that time thought "yup that's going to start the mother of all wars"?

As others have pointed out they absolutely didn't look like clear lines when they were kicking off.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They have been.

Months after assassination of Ferdinand the actual fighting began, and most projected it would be just anther war (common at the time in Europe, tho less common each century). People living through it knew nothing about it upfront.

We wildly think of WWII beginning with the invasion of Poland, but it took months for everyone (England included) to realise it wasn't a war between two countries.

Not to mention how WWI & WWII are basically the same war in two seemingly inevitable parts.

And we have had a ton of proxy and/or cold wars between Russia & USA since WWII ended.

[-] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 8 points 6 months ago

Just speculating really. Mind enlightening me what the clear line will be?

[-] taterthotsalad@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Holy moly lemmy has the tard.

[-] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 1 points 6 months ago

Good chat mate. Really compelling argument.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago

Why do people say such ignorant shit with so much confidence?

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