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Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an "unprecedented mass deployment" to Europe.

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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 188 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We just want fucking healthcare and affordable housing.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 84 points 1 month ago

Sorry, best I can do is 2 trillion more for Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and the like. They're desperate man, they haven't had a war for like 12 minutes, they need to be fed.

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[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Best the turnip can do is a gold colored overpriced shit phone.

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[-] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 107 points 1 month ago

God I hate Republicans.

Trump is absolute garbage on every single scale and stat, but it's the republican voters who got us here. Fuck every republican voter.

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[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I didn't call it, but there's nothing quite like a war to distract the population from rampant decline at home.

This one is weird though, Iran is allied with Russia. Israel is allied with the US. Historically, this made sense.

But Trump and Putin playing war together would benefit both of them. It allows Putin to pull out of Ukraine because "Iran provided us much help and they need us now." And it allows Russia to maintain the war economy. It benefits Trump because he wants to play war.

Neither leader would have any actual skin in the game, it's just people's lives that would never contribute in another meaningful way to their power.

I don't like this. This is feeling more 1984 than 1984.

Edit: I like this even worse after I read the specifics of the KC-135R and KC-46A. Each can carry about 200,000 lbs of additional fuel. A single F-15E can hold 13,000 lbs internally. 30 KC-135Rs can refuel an entire F-15E 460 times. Israel has 7 KC-130H (60,000lbs) and 7 Boeing 707s (which is what the KC-135 was based on). This isn't just escalation, this is staging for invasion.

[-] Tillman@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

The nice thing about Americans going to war is that it reduces the amount of dodge owners drag racing late at night. Silver linings.

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[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago

I’d just like to take this opportunity to say “fuck you” to all the service people flying these planes, planning the logistics, and otherwise operating at the behest of our sadistic federal government. Sure, the civilian leadership is ultimately at fault here, but y’all are humans with agency. I’m no longer carving out culpability from these goddamn people anymore. Fuck you terrorists. If we escalate yet another war, I’ll plan to spit on you when you arrive back broken and dead. Bring on the downvotes.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

It’s been decades that our military has been nothing but an imperialist boot. There is no moral ground to stand on in signing up. Work fast food.

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[-] chunes@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

How hard is it to just not kill others?

Apparently really fucking hard for some.

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[-] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 55 points 1 month ago

So much for keeping the US out of war..

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

I can't believe he'd just... Lie to us like we're a court, Congress or himself or something.

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[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Trump wants to try for an illegal third term and he thinks that being in the middle of a war will help his chances. “Don’t change horses mid-stream” or whatever bullshit.

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[-] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 49 points 1 month ago

Anyone else get the feeling WW3 has already started but we just haven't realised it yet?

[-] match@pawb.social 41 points 1 month ago

Imagine starting WW3 the weekend after 3% of your population came out to protest for other reasons. Your war weariness debuff will hit 100% in one turn.

[-] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 15 points 1 month ago

You could argue it started when Russia invaded Ukraine. But I wouldn't mind Trump being forever remembered in history as the instigator.

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[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's not a world war if it's not from the Austrian region of Germany, otherwise it's just sparkling aggression.

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[-] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 month ago

And again we see old incompetent white men starting another war.

[-] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 19 points 1 month ago

A society goes to shit when old men start wars whose conflict they know they shall never fight in

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

If the shit hits the fan, I want too see every single fucking MAGA voter at a US Army recruiting office signing up for 11 Bravo, Grunt Infantry.

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[-] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 month ago

This is basic dictator playbook, problems in domestic politics, start a war and problems change to foreign policy.

Putin has done this multiple times now, and Trump is following up.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

This is why I say Canada, Greenland, and Mexico are not safe. Added to the fact that all 3 countries have lots of resources the US needs.

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[-] kayky@thelemmy.club 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Time to waste hundreds of billions defending israel while our infrastructure crumbles and our citizens still go without healthcare.

Again.

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[-] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 27 points 1 month ago

Are people surprised? Republicans are war hawks even more so than the Libs.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But only against countries that pose no threat to them i.e. they are chickenhawks. At least Biden could do the bare minimum to help Ukraine.

[-] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

They are jingoists, and jingoists are no different than schoolyard bullies who want to appear tough so they loudly proclaim how tough and big they are, which includes an occasional show of force against those they believe won't/can't defend themselves to reinforce their image of being the biggest Tough Guy™ around.

If they win, they win. If they lose, it's because they decided it wasn't worth their time and left willingly, not because they lost.

This country has always been stuck up its own ass.

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

The silver lining is that this will accelerate the decline of the US Empire which in turn will weaken Israel. Although this will be too late for the millions who have been or are still to be killed because of these psychopathic regimes.

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[-] sudo@programming.dev 24 points 1 month ago

This would have to be the most unpopular war in US history and yet I think everyone Trump has surrounded himself with is telling him to do it.

[-] smayonak@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

This might sound insane but every single wartime president has gotten a huge boost to their approval ratings due to media networks circulating pure propaganda nonstop. Even NPR will start doing positive coverage.

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[-] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago

I’m bringing peace to the Middle East! The peace president! 🫲🍊🫱

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Don't ya know, he ended the war in Ukraine on day 1!

[-] wax@feddit.nu 22 points 1 month ago

I wonder where we'd be today if Trump didn't pull out of the nuclear agreement with Iran. Might not have made a difference, who knows.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Israel would have scratched their butt, then made up another reason to bomb them.

[-] Netrunner@programming.dev 18 points 1 month ago

Only idiots are excited about wars.

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[-] dariusj18@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Search "Altlantic Trident 25"

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[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago
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[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

Wasn't Trump the peaceful dove?

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[-] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Trump is after Iran's eggs, I guess. He promised the people of the US lower egg prices, he will get them from Iran.

How can people in the US be okay with this? Their quality of life has only decreased since Bush 2 started his wars of terror. A propagandized population driven to hate others and rally behind the president.

As unlikely as it may be, I hope the US loses quickly and decisively against Iran. Not in 20 years from now like in Afghanistan, but soon. I don't know what cards Iran has, what leverage they may have, but I hope they have something that enables them to inflict pain.

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[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 1 month ago

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Oh good. They're just fueling speculation and not any war machines. ^/s^

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[-] tisktisk@piefed.social 10 points 1 month ago

If anyone has good reasons to think otherwise, my anxiety needs something to believe in rn

[-] pheonixdown@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

Surprise attack on Ukraine?

[-] tisktisk@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago

you are making it worse somehow (But I did laugh at the absurdity of it all, so thank you)

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