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Genuine question; what’s the difference between DeepSeek gathering data and for example ChatGPT or Gemini?
Three of them are (I assume) great for usage but disastrous regard privacy and data.
because China bad and USA good :(
I mean we can generally agree that China is worse. That doesn’t mean we should willingly donate our data to the US, but if you have to choose between amputating your foot or your little toe it’s an easy decision.
We? More like we...stern imperialists
Can we? Which country had open sourced it's models and weightings so that the LLM can be run locally and spyfree?
I run deepseek locally so obviously I appreciate that they made that decision, but let's not pretend that something can't be given away for free with bad intentions. People running LLMs locally are a drop in the bucket compared to people just downloading an app.
France, Mistral. There are also many others in US and worldwide.
China is worse when comparing many other factors, but if ALL you care about is whether the model weights are os, then it is usually not decided by countries, but rather companies.
We are comparing chatGPT and Deepseek.
Again, not an opinion everyone agrees on. And this very much depends on which factors are cherry picked.
If you want privacy then you need to run locally, and to run locally all you do care about is model weights.
Not sure why this dimension is worth adding to the discussion.
We cannot agree, “comrade.”
US oligarchs have serious sway within EU and Germany in particular. They get their way.
Yes but you see a white man having control of your data is much better than a colored one!