Germany urges Apple and Google to remove DeepSeek from app stores over EU privacy concerns (alternativeto.net)

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[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 12 hours ago

Genuine question; what’s the difference between DeepSeek gathering data and for example ChatGPT or Gemini?

Three of them are (I assume) great for usage but disastrous regard privacy and data.

[-] kionite231@lemmy.ca 36 points 12 hours ago

Genuine question; what’s the difference between DeepSeek gathering data and for example ChatGPT or Gemini?

because China bad and USA good :(

[+] comrade_twisty@feddit.org -10 points 11 hours ago

I mean we can generally agree that China is worse. That doesn’t mean we should willingly donate our data to the US, but if you have to choose between amputating your foot or your little toe it’s an easy decision.

[-] m532@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

We? More like we...stern imperialists

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 26 points 11 hours ago

I mean we can generally agree that China is worse.

Can we? Which country had open sourced it's models and weightings so that the LLM can be run locally and spyfree?

[-] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I run deepseek locally so obviously I appreciate that they made that decision, but let's not pretend that something can't be given away for free with bad intentions. People running LLMs locally are a drop in the bucket compared to people just downloading an app.

[-] HelloRoot@lemy.lol -2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

France, Mistral. There are also many others in US and worldwide.

China is worse when comparing many other factors, but if ALL you care about is whether the model weights are os, then it is usually not decided by countries, but rather companies.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

There are also many others in US and worldwide.

We are comparing chatGPT and Deepseek.

China is worse when comparing many other factors

Again, not an opinion everyone agrees on. And this very much depends on which factors are cherry picked.

but if ALL you care about is whether the model weights are os,

If you want privacy then you need to run locally, and to run locally all you do care about is model weights.

then it is usually not decided by countries, but rather companies.

Not sure why this dimension is worth adding to the discussion.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 hours ago

I mean we can generally agree that China is worse.

We cannot agree, “comrade.”

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 7 points 10 hours ago

US oligarchs have serious sway within EU and Germany in particular. They get their way.

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 12 hours ago

Yes but you see a white man having control of your data is much better than a colored one!

[-] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

They can pretty easily just pass a law banning it and Apple and Google will remove it from the German app store

[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 19 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

This is just xenophobia and political posturing, actual policy is too much to ask.

[-] kionite231@lemmy.ca 8 points 12 hours ago

but why? there is not valid reason to remove only DeepSeek, they should remove AI all together including Gemini and ChatGPT

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 12 hours ago

It's a cold war thing

[-] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Okay, then tell them that. I’m just saying urging is stupid. Lawmakers can make laws.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 10 hours ago

Everyone here knows that not how policy is made.

US corpos tell EU what they need, EU does it. China does not have such sway with EU with some exceptions.

Your regime whore politician would not take a piss on you, if you were on fire.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Germany’s going hard right again. Severe crackdowns on civil rights are escalating. They’re arresting people for posting criticism of political efforts online, ramping up their military, pushing far-right politicians into office, etc.

Time to eradicate the Nazis again.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 hours ago

I'm from Spain, we also have problems with nazis, but not so as in Germany, but our left gov has a hard time with these hooligans.

[-] far_university1990@reddthat.com 7 points 11 hours ago

Bist du dumm oder sowas?

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 10 hours ago

ramping up their military

Naive take on this point tbh... Germany is being forced by its allies to do its share for the alliance. I am sure Germany's nazi nepo baby leadership would rather be buying Russian gas right now to drive its industrial base but geopolitics are a bitch lol

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