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AOC's Been Doing This For Years. Zohran Will Too. You Fell For It Again
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I feel like it's worth zooming in on something he says about these people wanting power, wealth, fame, etc. There is specifically a trend in the DSA whose primary base is in NYC that believes power and fame are essentially the same - that AOC being a household name is equivalent to power for the DSA - so these people they helped to elect simply holding prestigious titles conveys power to the DSA in their worldview no matter what the elected person does.
I don't know if AOC agrees with that position or if she just personally likes the wealth and power. My guess is Zohran comes out of the tradition but will more or less carry out the same program of caving to the Democrats to maintain his position.
As long as this idea remains the dominant trend in leftist politics in the US we will always falter.
Difference being he's trying to be a mayor, not a Congressional Representative. He'll have actual power to make New Yorkers' lives better by virtue of his executive authority, something AOC lacks.
I'm sorry but I think this is fundamentally incorrect. The capitalist state is not designed for us to wield. Every single aspect of government will be holding back every single thing he proposes (assuming he even wins the election which is not a given like so many assume). The state and federal governments, the courts, and the city bureaucracy will obstruct and hinder him every step of the way and unlike historical reformers he is not the valve holding back a mass movement that is baying for the blood of the rich. He can't even stick to his guns about the intifada, how's he going to overcome a judge that says "fuck you you can't do that"?
Right but he'll (optimistically) implement things that are then rolled back by the superstructure. It requires the manifestation and alignment of capitalist power, unlike anything AOC has ever attempted (if she even has).
Argument could be made the Dems tried all this under Biden and the "capitalist superstructure" was the Parliamentarian. The difference will (optimistically) be in the character of his response.
You can apply this to anything we do including labor action. Yet we have both strikes that aren't shutdown immediately and union victories in new industries. They're not gods, they're not omniscient.