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[-] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 95 points 5 months ago

Yeah but DLS would be a significant downgrade for many people, who already fight the suggestion to only eat meat six days a week tooth and nail.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6013539/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10537420/

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/suppl/10.1021/acs.est.3c03957/suppl_file/es3c03957_si_001.pdf

Things that count as DLS:

10 m² of personal living space + 20 m² for every 4 ppl as bathroom / kitchen
2100 kcal/day
1400 kWh/year, but this already includes public services (education/healthcare)
1 washing machine per 20 ppl
2.4 kg clothing / year
wear tops for three days and bottoms for 15 days without washing
1 laptop per 4 people with a yearly power consumption of 62 kWh. (bizzarely they talk about an 800 MHz computer and seem to confuse HDD and RAM). If your gaming computer used 400 W you could use it for 150 hr/year.

[-] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 66 points 5 months ago

I'm gonna need a lot more than 10 square meters of space if everyone is changing their shirts twice a week. Yuck.

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[-] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 39 points 4 months ago

They live in a world where 700 million people are currently starving. Do you think you care about the washing machines if your children have nothing to eat?

[-] Signtist@bookwyr.me 14 points 4 months ago

That's the heart of the issue, though, isn't it? Most people do care about the state of their washing machines even as countless children have nothing to eat. People chastise their kids for not eating their vegetables by saying "kids are starving in Africa," without doing anything to help any kids in Africa. People want more for themselves even while acknowledging that others have so much less. Studies like this assume that human selfishness is negligible, while it's actually one of the largest variables that needs to be factored in. Most people don't actually care about human suffering unless it's happening to someone they personally know - they care much more about their washing machine.