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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

I see I'll have to explain this in simpler terms.

I'm pointing out that the only people who voted against fascism were Harris voters, not the non-voters you're asspatting.

[-] piefood@feddit.online 1 points 1 week ago

Nope, plenty of 3rd party voters also voted against fascism. I know, because I am one of them.

If Harris wanted me to vote for her, she should have run on policies that I (and most americans) want, instead of policies that I (and most americans) do not want.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Third party votes in a presidential election are effectively virtue signaling. And nothing more. One of the many things that it signals is that you didn't really care who wins. Whether they are Fascist or not. Or that you were hyperbolic / disingenuous in calling them both fascist. Which don't get me wrong Democratic Leadership really seems far too comfortable with the fascists. But they certainly aren't the same.

It is still your god-given right as a voter to use your vote in that way. Though people are right to point out that you didn't show any sort of solidarity against the fascists. The Republicans margin of victory was so thin. This was literally the hypothetical everyone talked to you all about without end. Where you could have made the difference. But chose not to.

[-] piefood@feddit.online 1 points 1 week ago

Third party votes in a presidential election are effectively virtue signaling.

Correct. I don't believe that I ever said otherwise. I was signalling that I wanted the US to stop bombing children, backing a genocide, sacrificing the poor and working-class for the sake of the rich, etc etc.

One of the many things that it signals is that you didn't really care who wins.

Incorrect. I was signalling that I wanted both of them to lose.

Or that you were hyperbolic / disingenuous in calling them both fascist.

I'm pretty sure that I never said that both of them were fascist. Please point out to me where I said that, and I will correct it.

But they certainly aren't the same.

Agreed. I'm not sure why you bring that up, as I never said that they were the same.

Though people are right to point out that you didn't show any sort of solidarity against the fascists.

No, they are incorrect. I tried pushing the Democrats to win by picking popular platforms, which they refused to do. They chose to stick with losing on an unpopular platform, rather than picking up more popular platforms to win. I wanted them to do this so that a "part for the people" would win, and the fascists would lose.

The Republicans margin of victory was so thin.

Then the Democrats should have put in a real effort to pick up more voters, instead of pushing voters away. People were very clear about what they wanted from the Democrats, but Harris' response was "I'm speaking" instead.

Where you could have made the difference. But chose not to.

If all of the 3rd party voters backed Harris, she still would have lost. It seems to me that running a campaign of unpopular polices, and unpopular candidates on the coat-tails of an unpopular president is why they lost. They chose this, not me.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

If all of the 3rd party voters backed Harris, she still would have lost.

I love bringing this point up. Shit libs have no retort. They have no choice but to look at the mythical four kind of voter: the non-voters!

Instead, they chased after the other active, sizable voting base, which blew up in their face.

I don't know if Democrats have dropped the ball this hard ever in American history.

[-] piefood@feddit.online 2 points 1 week ago

I kinda feel bad for the people that blame third-party voters, actually. I get that they are angry and frustrated, and they should be. But they are upset at the wrong people. Instead of being upset at the voters who couldn't stomach such a terrible candidate/party, they should be mad at the candidate/party for choosing to be so terrible and losing so many voters.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Nope, plenty of 3rd party voters also voted against fascism.

Sorry that you're in denial, I understand being a Nazi enabler is hard to take.

[-] piefood@feddit.online -1 points 1 week ago

Says the person that keeps telling others that voting against genocide was bad.

I very clearly voted against the Nazis, but you clearly voted for genocide. I'm sorry that is hard for you to accept.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago

A gay Nazi isn't so far from a Nazi, bud

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