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[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

You know how before the elections we say that it's not the time to nitpick the Democratic Party because it's more important to have it win so that the fascist won't win?

Well, now we are not before elections, which means that now it is the time to nitpick the Democratic Party.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Hell yeah. Nitpick away. Push for actual left politicians. Go canvas for a candidate who better meets your ideals. Don't forget to vote in primaries and local elections.

Also don't forget that we need to actually make it to having elections for the next 4 years to even start trying to turn this ship around.

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[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Thank you. I really don't get those people.

And I mean, the Democratic party doesn't exist in a vacuum. If you don't try to change anything, of course the awful "moderates" stay in charge. But it is possible to overtake them, just look at Mamdani. But some people won't even try that because "it's a lost case"…

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He now holds the primary attendance record in NYC. It was only 30% of eligible voters, up from 21% in the last election. That’s literally all it takes. We just need to show the fuck up.

Congressional primaries see less than 15% attendance. We’ve been letting retirees pack our ballots with centrists for 40 years, then complain about our choices in the general elections. We wouldn’t be calling for term limits if we consistently participated in primaries.

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[-] splonglo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

True but it's a minor point. Even if every single lefty held the line it wouldn't have made a difference. The people who didn't vote were mostly disengaged normal people and the blame for that is squarely on the Democrats for sucking absolute shit on purpose because of big money in politics.

Have some perspective, pick better fights with worse people. I personally find it extremely unmoving when the left chastises people over politics so good job emulating one of their worst and least politically effective qualities.

Instead, I humbly suggest you try to inspire a shred of hope among the cynical and apathetic - but deep down actually very cool people of the Earth🌠

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[-] astutemural@midwest.social 9 points 1 week ago

Folks, OP is a well known anti-socialist who routinely creates messy drama. Nothing to see here, move along.

They do also post quite a lot of nice historical content, which I quite appreciate. Maybe go enjoy that.

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[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Man you keep just making a variation on the same "fuck the leftists" line over and over again.

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[-] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Blaming people for not voting for shit candidates isn’t going to accomplish what you’re hoping for, just saying.

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[-] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I voted for Harris, am I allowed to be mad that the Democrats are still gung ho about Israeli genocide yet? Or do I need to shout blue no matter who for another few decades?

Not voting and voting for trump were both stupid choices. But attacking people who didn't vote for trump instead of those who did is fucking bananas and I don't get the point of this. Are we expecting a resounding vote in 2028 for Harris again is going to fix everything? Come the fuck on.

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[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

As a trans person, you can suck my girl dick. I am not a cudgel to be used by shitty libs to sheepdog votes for their nonexistent policy.

Trans rights keep being eroded, regardless of who is in power, because the Democratic Party isn't doing anything to preserve them.

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[-] Grazed@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I feel like takes like this come from people with no long term memory. Do you remember the pro-palestinian crowd begging Kamala Harris to even pretend like she'd do something to help? And she basically told them to vote for Trump? Blame the Democratic party for choosing to be fascism-light instead of actual resistance.

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[-] CandleTiger@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

It's a little late now that there's camps, sure. If people had refused harder to put up with shitty democrats in the past, like.. decades past.. then the dems would've lost to past republicans who weren't quite dictators.

In that alternate past where the dems actually lose for being center-right corporatists, they would've had to get some kind of spine or plan or... something.. earlier to protect our public news and education from authoratarian misinformation and maybe prevented this bullshit.

In this current world that we actually have though... I mean you saw we elected Biden, right? And you saw how much good that did -- right? We need somebody on our side with some teeth and rolling over for milquetoast donation collectors is not going to get it for us.

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When asked what Kamala's opinion was about Trans people and protections, all she said is "they should follow the law".

The fuck is that non answer

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"not voting because the dems are complicit" was always gop propaganda to keep people from voting dem

the problem is that seemingly all of the news channels are owned by the gop and whoever they bought. that makes people manipulated. what to do about that?

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fascism is not a break from the previous administration, but a continuation.

Libs are still crying about their loss of power, still doing nothing to resist.

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[-] bobthened@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Are we talking about the same Democratic Party who put forward Kamala "I believe we should follow the law" Harris as their only candidate for president?

How you people manage to convince yourselves that a Democratic Party win would achieve anything at all for trans rights, is beyond belief!

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[-] febra@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

CIA ass post

[-] ZMoney@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This is such a tired narrative. You guys really want to focus on the leftists when half the country voted for an authoritarian?

Every movement has its radical fringe. Virtue signaling either your ideological purity or your solidarity with the only viable opposition are equally feeble attempts at clinging to a notion of victory in the face of total defeat.

EDIT: I wasn't expecting this comment to generate discussion but since it did, let me elaborate on what I meant by "total defeat." The defeat is not an electoral loss, it's the fact that we have relinquished so much political power that all we have left is voting for one of a set of compromised politicians every few years. It's a tired argument because it assumes that it's possible to vote our way out of the mess we're in, and it simply isn't. We need to attack the point of production because it's where the ruling class derives its power. And arguing about our sham elections is getting us nowhere.

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[-] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

That feeling when Democrats are turning on trans people. Pretending the Democrats will save us as a Fool's errand. Pretending that trans people wouldn't be on the chopping block if the Democrats had federal office is naive.

Some Democrats, reeling from Republican attacks tying their party to transgender rights issues, are privately furious at their leaders and explicitly warning they need a better strategy going into 2026.

Source: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/13/democrats-moderates-transgender-issues-strategy-00189123

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Pretending that trans people wouldn’t be on the chopping block if the Democrats had federal office is naive.

Yes, as we all know, the Federal government the past 30 years has become more hostile to trans folk every time those damn dirty Dems have been in office!

Utterly delusional.

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[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Ah, this Pug Jesus. Always angry at leftists showing they're just Republican lite. Got it.

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[-] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 week ago

If the "online lefties" were so powerful a block perhaps Dem's leadership should have courted their vote. If they were so minor a block that "online lefties" should be ignored then you're targeting the wrong people.

But you know this already, I told you before the election that way to win the "no genocide" vote isn't to try convince them to vote "yes genocide". It's to try convince the leaders to stop supporting genocide.

This post is the same punching down shit you were doing before the election.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Apparently not voting in America is "voting for Trump", but it's "not voting for Harris".

One can only conclude that either:

  • Trump was the default in the voting ballot but nobody got told about it.
  • That "rationale" is a piece of political propaganda meant to exonerate the Democrat Party leadership from their unwillingness actually try and attract voters with actual policies that appeal to them in order to win against Trump, by blaming the very people they didn't even try to appeal to.
[-] piefood@feddit.online 5 points 1 week ago

I'm curious if the "not voting in America is 'voting for Trump'" people ever thanked the non-voters for their support of Biden in 2020?

If "not voting in America is 'voting for Trump'", is true, then "not voting in 2020 America is 'voting for Biden'", right?

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[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 5 points 1 week ago

“I was headed right for the tree, but I didn’t slam on my brakes because they make a squeaking sound. I’m paralyzed now, but at least I didn’t have to listen to that damn squeak! See how much better a person I am than you because of my resolve?“

These people…

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

I feel like a lot of people are doubling down now because the Democrats on the one hand show utter incompetence and unwillingness to fight Fascism in the US and on the other hand keep up their support for Fascism and genocide by Israel.

Everyone understands in their subconcious but many deny in their conciousness that things will not get better without a struggle. So going down the "i did harm reduction, you were all wrong, lalalala" route makes them feel like they did something and helps to not come to terms that they have been strung along by the Democrats for all those years.

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[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

"we deserve non-squeaky brakes, and I won't use the squeaky ones!"

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