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Yep let's keep voting in the people that promise to do something about it and then they do nothing about it like they've done for the last 20 plus years.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1grcztm/voter_distribution_in_us_2024_presidential/
Congratulations you highlighted voter apathy. A very well known problem in the United States.
Care to explain how your strategy of harm reduction supposed to energize the Electoral it and get them out voting again when that strategy completely failed in 2024?
It's almost like we should do something different than try to convince people to vote in the system that doesn't work for them, that burns everybody out
I am aware, and tankies like you are stoking it and abandoning this key front in our [class] war.
Id like you to answer why watching removing the few political blocks we could put on ICE, abortion removal, and LGBT rights is a good move? I live in a place with a large Hispanic population. Please visit and tell the kids that you were to pure to hold your nose on election day and that them being afraid of showing up to an empty home one day is just how it needs to be.
Tankies just aren't serious people and bad allies.
Yeah the second International thought electoralism was really important too. They were wrong.
I would be happy to teach those kids all about Marx's Theory and the different ways ways that they can survive and how to hide and survive in this government.
I'd especially love to point out that you think voting is the most important thing you can do. Going to be really fun when you find out that nobody really cares how you voted since it doesn't really affect material conditions especially once the election is over.
I'd love for you to sit there and explain why the Democrat Party isn't doing anything more for those Hispanic kids. Maybe you can explain to them why the Democrats allowed the covid Protections in 2022 to expire that significantly helped Hispanic families? Maybe you can explain why the Democratic party isn't doing anything to obstruct Trump's policies. Maybe you can explain to these Hispanic kids that when the Democrats on the opportunity to abolished ice they wouldn't.
Radlibs are hopeless idealized fools that think voting and compromise can solve the world's problems. Marxist and Anarchist are actually aware of the work that needs to be done and are completely aware of the hostilities the government will have in trying to make anything better for anybody except the capitalist class.
You're not an ally to these people. You're a wolf in sheep's clothing walking the path to Hell paved with good intentions.
Again:
So what are tankies doing to improve the material conditions? Protests are good and very important, but if you don't convert that energy into policy it was just a hang out. Tankies just aren't serious people. Tho I doubt tankies are even protesting.
One: Marxists go all the time to protest in an effort to recruit for DSA, PSL, FSRO
Two: as I already said earlier in this thread to you Marxists and anarchists spend their time in local organizations that actually affect their community.
I spend my own effort pushing for local organizations and donating my own time and money to those local organizations which is sure of Hell a lot more effective at bringing change than voting. This is a key and core strategy of both Marxism and anarchism.
The fact that you don't know that indicates that you should pick up a book.
Sure, and i am talking about tankies like you discouraging people from action.
I haven't discouraged people from action.
I've discourage people from electoralism
Get it right.
By the way would you explain what a tankie is so that everyone else here can understand the pejorative term that you continue to misuse?
So one of the many actions we need to take.... Again, be serious. Notice how in the thread you have not said anything that leads to legislation? Tankies are not serious people.
Notice how legislation didn't save us when we had four years to prepare.
Hmm.
Radlibs really need to pick up a book about political Theory from somebody other than another liberal.
You claim it's one of the many actions we need to take I think it's a waste of our time and history supports my position as clearly evident by the clusterfuck of the United States
STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO PROPOSE SOMETHING VIABLE, CHAMP!!!!
Hey how that strategy of vote or lose the US to facisim work out?
We ready to do something different or just keep trying to same losing strat?