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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

But I also get not wanting to vote for someone who is willing to save you but not willing to save someone you think is also worth saving.

So you understand, then, why I feel disdain for these 'leftists' who weren't willing to save people I think were worth saving?

At what point do you stop blaming the people who’s morals held them to too high a standard and start blaming the people who couldn’t meet the bar of “don’t support a genocide”.

Holy fucking shit

MORE THAN ONE ACTOR CAN BE GUILTY AT ONCE

Like, your really going to spend time,effort and soul into being mad at the guy unwilling to compromise on their morality for their own safety rather than the guys who can’t stack up to what should be an easy ask?

"An easy ask"

A majority of the fucking Democratic Party electorate still supports Israel.

"Just stop supporting Israel, national candidate whose hope is to win on an extremely narrow margin! It's easy!"

Not only that, but fucking yes I'm going to be mad at the guy unwilling to compromise their own 'morality', and in doing so not only murder the people he claims to be doing it for (Palestinians) but also a whole host of other marginalized groups numbering in the literal fucking millions by projections in the first six months of this fucking Nazi regime, and what will probably end up in the tens of millions, if not more.

If someone's 'morality' tells them to let Nazis win so they can virtue signal, their 'morality' isn't worth a good goddamn, and they're not much better than Nazis themselves.

Just weird priorities brother. I get the harm reduction argument. I voted and whatnot. But the moment that election was over, I was way more mad at the folks who couldn’t help but declare how much they won’t budge on genocide instead of my friends and ideological comrades.

See, that's exactly the problem. You're more interested in remaining friends and 'comrades' with people who enable literal Nazis, because changing your social circles would be uncomfortable. Your friends and 'comrades' couldn't help but declare how much they wouldn't budge on genocide - namely, that if they couldn't prevent one genocide, they preferred there to be numerous genocides, and the genocide they 'wanted' to prevent being expanded.

This is the exact same shit that suburban liberals do with their conservative friends every time their conservative friends vote for Nazis. "Ohhh, I don't agree with their choice, but aren't there people more responsible???"

No one who supports Nazis is my friend. No one who supports Nazis is my comrade.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Brother, I cannot express to you how weird it is that you so blatantly throw gazan lives in the "already dead pile, so not really apart of the conversation, except for those who want no dead people. Those are the real killers. Not the killers I want you to vote for. You practically voted for the killers I didn't want you to vote for!"

Look brother. At the end of the day, we both voted for a genocidal regime. I took it as an unfortunate lesser evil choice that failed due to the lesser evil not being lesser enough on the evil.

You sit here and argue some weird logical loop that somehow means you actually, the guy who voted for the genocidal regime, are somehow less culpable to that continued genocide than the person who couldn't condone that coming from their actions.

It's weird. It's self righteous and I don't get it. You got off the hook. You don't get to see the genocide you voted for, you got a different one you didn't. But that doesn't absolve you and it doesn't absolve me. Eat it and move on with more productive things.

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