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China Is Busy Repeating the Same Fundamental Mistake the West Made
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I know this is long but if you're realy interested, the economic point is rubish and debunked, see Michael's writing(China's unfair overcapacity). This author is repeating the same mainstream econ discourse that is just econ 101 which fails when you actualy pay attention to the events so far.
This narrative keeps being repeated only because its mainstream econ discourse. I'll try to give you a brief timeline of what happened.
As we know this "overcapacity" issue began mysteriously in late 2023 when Biden and the EU started turning more aggressive towards China, they got pissed off their industry can't compete with Chinese renewable exports and the only resource left for Biden would be either the Trump trade war and tariffs method or a heavy neoliberal attack. So the US choose the later, primarily with a heavy focus to let China know that their economy is Not Ok if they continue to export this much.
So soon after Blinken and notably Janet Yellen went to China to explain to them China needs to accept this and do something or else there would be more consequences.
What followed in late 2024 was the CPC accepted this demand, they pushed "consumption" incentives. They listened to the same western neoliberal economists and their solution is to reduce these exports as much as possible to save whatever is left of western industry and stop the consistent soft power gains achieved by Chinese dominance in renewable energy.
The evidence for this continued on even despite the Trump tariffs, western media sometimes let the mask fall off, The opportunity in China’s solar ‘overcapacity’. I'll quote from the Financial Times even admitting this.
Despite the pearl clutching over capitalist profits, they admit exactly what we want to see. Constant heavy investments in new production lines making the latest generation of technology is what actualy grows the economy, according to a Marxist principle.
I think the emphasis should speak for itself. The takeaway is correct too unforuntately. The CPC isn't "convinced" they must use this advantage in renewable energy production for because they are not Marxists nor follow Marxist economic principles. What they follow is neoliberal economics with government intervention, when conflict appears, they side with the mainstream consensus as shown here.
So what exactly is the solution to this problem anyway?
The Marxist principle here should be the same utilized during the previous initial housing crash when Evergrande failed and the CPC let them go bankrupt. Indeed the first principle is capitalists are not entitled to a profit and in such a hybrid economy the CPC should take control of these failing companies as part of the expansion of the public sector. This is the argument Michael made during the Evergrande crash. China: Xi’s third term – part two: property, debt and common prosperity
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So the solution is if these industries are unprofitable you take ownership of them, transform the entire sector into a public sector, shove cheap renewables to the world at cost or low profits. The goal is to move towards socialism isn`t it?
On the topic of your OP title, What is China's mistake in reality?
I think its clear through the past 15 years of CPC messaging and economic strategy that unfortunately Dengism is not a path to socialism but rather the final destination. The CPC repeats the same neoliberal economic consensus theory as the western capitalists in the post cold war era. There is no point fighting "globalization", we must accept peaceful "rules based" relations at all costs. China doesn't recognize nor cares about the global struggle against capitalism, fundamentally there is no such thing anymore.
Now China's mistake is to think they've won even though we're heading towards the climate change abyss.
The second part of this mistake then is China's refusal to understand BRI can't mask the costs of western imperialism. This is the biggest ideological betrayal IMO. The assumption that happy face Chinese investment on one hand can compensate for their incredibly bad FP on the other hand.
To give an closest to me. though I believe you can find many of these elsewhere. The recent news China wants to help invest on some railroad project in Brazil towards Peru. Awesome right? How does one squares this with China's state oil company being just as invested into drilling the Amazon as the western oil companies? In this land grab by China's CNPC, Exxon Mobil and Chevron.
This is the same mistake, long story short, Dengist China does not want to actualy move away from capitalism at this time. They do not care to understand the light at the end of the tunnel is the climate change freight train coming at us. China's ideal of a global economy they can rely on is a costly generational mistake they'll pay for dearly.
I could write more but I hope this is already helpful, though the article you linked is not particularly good so I focus on the point I am know the most.
Wow, I really appreciate the effort that went into your response. I know very little beyond the basics about China/Chinese economy, and I do appreciate your critical eye towards it as well as tying it directly to theory. I feel like a lot of opinions I see are either that China is a perfect (almost) socialist utopia, or China bad lol. When I have some time I will try to remember to go through your sources.
Since you seem pretty well versed, do you know of any sources I can read up that touch on China being an imperialist country? I have seen that critique but I also have not seen any kind of in depth analysis either supporting or refuting it.