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Elon Musk’s Self-Driving Tesla Lies Are Finally Catching Up To Him
(www.forbes.com)
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Buddy, it's been 8 years since then. People are allowed to, and are encouraged to change their opinions as time goes on. So the author bought the hype in 2017; And??? A LOT has changed since then, and it's no shock that his stance has too.
Man, 8 years ago Elon was my literal hero, paving the road to a new space era and pushing for the solar & EV revolution. I ate that shit up right up till the cave incident.
How times have changed....now all I want is billionaire steak with my fava beans and an appropriated chianti
I mean, of course, but we're literally talking about Forbes a financial magazine that has a long history of glazing CEOs when they shouldn't have been. This is part and parcel to what they've been doing for decades now, so it's a little silly to be like "but they can change their minds!"
For example, Elizabeth Holmes was on the cover of Forbes in September 2015, just months before the lid got blown off about her medical devices being hokum.
I'm all for people changing their minds, but these are media organizations who literally peddle the idea that these are "Great Men" (or women) who we should be looking up to. They aren't doing the legwork to make sure their claims aren't farcical, they just repeat them as sacrosanct. Fortunes, Forbes, the Wall Street Journal are all complicit in the entire fraud of CEOs being paid obscene amounts of money and over-inflating their importance, and they've been complicit in it for decades. Cheering on one of their writers because they changed their mind when evidence became far too obvious to ignore kind of misses the point entirely about these media organizations and how they enable these charlatans to steal the value of our labor from us and take it as their own.
So what you are saying that Forbes information should be treated with all the credibility of an LLM output?
That could be argued that they therefore can’t be held liable when they spew utter garbage.
So you're upset that Forbes can't tell the future?
He’s upset that Forbes did not do actual journalism. Anyone who looked into Theranos would have known that it was smelly from the beginning.
It was initially difficult to claim outright fraud, but the lack of peer reviewed research coming out of that company or that the diagnostics were even based on would have triggered anyone who was marginally competent in medical testing or even just biochemistry.
So Forbes sucks, and they printed what they were told.