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Elon Musk’s Self-Driving Tesla Lies Are Finally Catching Up To Him (www.forbes.com)
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For nearly a decade Elon Musk has claimed Teslas can truly drive themselves. They can’t. Now California regulators, a Miami jury and a new class action suit are calling him on it.

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[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2017/01/24/elon-musk-targets-full-self-driving-capability-for-teslas-within-6-months/

Literally the same writer for Forbes, Alan Ohnsman, in January 2017, doing a lot of heavy lifting for these Musk lies that he now claims are catching up to Musk.

Maybe you shouldn't have helped peddle them then, Alan & Forbes??

This was just a quick online search because I knew that Forbes helped glaze this lying fuck at one point, but it's an extra layer of get fucked to have it literally be the same author.

[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Buddy, it's been 8 years since then. People are allowed to, and are encouraged to change their opinions as time goes on. So the author bought the hype in 2017; And??? A LOT has changed since then, and it's no shock that his stance has too.

[-] JGrffn@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Man, 8 years ago Elon was my literal hero, paving the road to a new space era and pushing for the solar & EV revolution. I ate that shit up right up till the cave incident.

How times have changed....now all I want is billionaire steak with my fava beans and an appropriated chianti

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean, of course, but we're literally talking about Forbes a financial magazine that has a long history of glazing CEOs when they shouldn't have been. This is part and parcel to what they've been doing for decades now, so it's a little silly to be like "but they can change their minds!"

For example, Elizabeth Holmes was on the cover of Forbes in September 2015, just months before the lid got blown off about her medical devices being hokum.

I'm all for people changing their minds, but these are media organizations who literally peddle the idea that these are "Great Men" (or women) who we should be looking up to. They aren't doing the legwork to make sure their claims aren't farcical, they just repeat them as sacrosanct. Fortunes, Forbes, the Wall Street Journal are all complicit in the entire fraud of CEOs being paid obscene amounts of money and over-inflating their importance, and they've been complicit in it for decades. Cheering on one of their writers because they changed their mind when evidence became far too obvious to ignore kind of misses the point entirely about these media organizations and how they enable these charlatans to steal the value of our labor from us and take it as their own.

[-] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

So you're upset that Forbes can't tell the future?

[-] porksnort@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

He’s upset that Forbes did not do actual journalism. Anyone who looked into Theranos would have known that it was smelly from the beginning.

It was initially difficult to claim outright fraud, but the lack of peer reviewed research coming out of that company or that the diagnostics were even based on would have triggered anyone who was marginally competent in medical testing or even just biochemistry.

So Forbes sucks, and they printed what they were told.

[-] Salvo@aussie.zone 1 points 8 months ago

So what you are saying that Forbes information should be treated with all the credibility of an LLM output?

That could be argued that they therefore can’t be held liable when they spew utter garbage.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 1 points 8 months ago

I knew that Forbes helped glaze this lying fuck at one point

We all did. Remember, he used to actually be very well-liked by the public at one point, on both sides. Hell, we were giving him Marvel cameos and everything. It wasn't until the year after that article, that the public started to notice what a piece of shit Elon was; opinions on him didn't really start shifting until his involvement in that cave rescue in 2018.

Instead of shitting on the author for a piece he wrote eight years ago, you should recognize that he now knows better.

[-] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 9 points 8 months ago

Do not give one penny to this Nazi!

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Unless it's traveling towards his head at approximately Mach 1.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

But Tesla stocks are still up.

[-] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

"Markets can remain irrational a lot longer than you and I can remain solvent."

  • Economist Gary Shilling
[-] Bell@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I know I'm going to get downvoted but I use FSD every day. It's not perfect but it keeps getting better, and it's already the best solution out there. If you haven't actually used it then all you have is someone else's opinion.

Stipulated: Elon still lied about the timetable.

Stipulated: Eton helping Trump and doing DOGE made me sick to watch.

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

They're just about to (or have) started testing here in Japan. Jesus fucking Christ we're stupid.

[-] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 0 points 8 months ago

Got a source? I haven't heard of this yet (or blocked any memory of it)

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago
[-] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 1 points 8 months ago

Thanks. I wonder who approved this. It says it's Minato Mirai, but I doubt Kanagawa can approve that since road law is, so far as I know, national. I want to write to someone expressing my concern, so I think I'll have to dig.

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

Great idea. I don't live anywhere near Kanagawa but I should let whoever approved this hear my concern too. I'll do a little bit of digging as well and share with you anything I find out if that's all right.

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