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Fascists calling eachother communists like this on Twitter while working class people cheer them on for being so funny is just not the future I envisioned or wanted.
I don't have many nice things to say about Newsom but let's not dilute the word fascist into a generic insult eh?
He made being unhoused illegal.
While I like him mocking trump I still don't like him.
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https://apnews.com/article/california-newsom-homeless-los-angeles-san-francisco-5b2b3aca9ca56efb444a717d278c1fd9
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Basically made it illegal to own anything or have any sort of living space when you're homeless, and didn't create more shelters.
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So all the homeless people in those encampments were given homes?
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Okay they didn't cool
Do you know what cleaning an encampment means? They are not sweeping up and and making it look nice.
Everyone is kicked out. Any belongings they are unable to carry out get tossed.
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Him or JD Vance though?
Can we please not start advocating for the lesser of two evils before the primaries even happen? There is still time to get someone who isn't actually evil the nomination FFS! If it comes down to him or Vance I will reluctantly vote for him- we are not there yet.
Just because you can't see the writing on the wall doesn't mean it's not there. Maybe their won't be an election? The big old orange trump needs to flush to where he has earned.
I mean, there are non-fascist neoliberals out there, but this shit is just fascism. If it can happen to the homeless, it can happen to anyone.
That's just liberal bullshit, not fascism.
There are plenty of NIMBY democrats as evidence by all the Dems who are treating Newsom as the second coming of Christ and the presumptive 2028 nominee, despite his disgusting practices Vis-à-vis the homeless.
Fascism is a Far Right, Authortarian, and Ultranationalist ideology that combines a militaristic autocracy, forcible suppression of dissent, and a racist social order. By using the term as if it means 'things we hate', then it waters down the actual definition and gives MAGAts who constantly try to turn the word around on us ammunition.
Call it gross, call it late stage capitalism, call it vile, disgusting, cruel, short sighted. Call it sweeping the problem under the rug, call out liberals for supporting it. All of those things are true. It's not fascism though.
I’m not diluting the word, I’m using the classical definition of it.
What do you think the classical definition is?
Ya. Honestly, I'm getting pretty close to being done with Lemmy at this point. The way to fight extremism is not with different extremism. Between the hyper purity test Leftists, and the AI=evil absolutists, it feels like there's never any room for constructive discussion anymore. If I even ask a clarifying question about someone's views, even one that I could potentially be swayed towards, the response always comes back as some variation of "You're one of them aren't you!"
There is no such thing as "leftist extremism" especially in the united states. It's also not "purity testing" to want to not kill homeless and trans people.
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Or yes Newsom's widespread destruction of homeless camps surely has no consequences on that community and his support of transphobic rhetoric surely doesn't contribute to massive trans suicide and murder rates how could I think otherwise? /S
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No here's evidence
https://calmatters.org/housing/homelessness/2024/02/homeless-mortality-report/
https://sfstandard.com/2024/03/03/homeless-people-dying/
https://homelessstrategy.com/dying-while-homeless-is-a-burgeoning-crisis-in-california-that-necessitates-systemic-changes/amp/
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/transpop-suicide-press-release/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11244576/
I could post thousands about high rates of homeless deaths in California are and how Newsom's policies make that worse and how high trans suicide rates are and how that is cause largely by transphobia and how newsom contributes to that.
Thank you for doing this legwork for me. I was too hung over this morning to deal with liberal fascist enabling stupidity myself.
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You proved his point, arguing against his point.
That's some real lack of self awareness.
What point of his did I "prove"?
That your vapid contrarianism in willful ignorance of the commenter's thesis is yet another example of the self-righteous, performative and banal virtue signalling infecting communications in this age at every level, in every medium, from every side.
It's feeding the philosophical and metaphysical simulacra created by techno-feudalists that provide the foundation to rule with impunity.
If "perfect is the enemy of good", the billionaires want the slaves performing purity tests of all varieties to distract from a common goal.
Newsom isn't great but he's leagues ahead of the small fingered vulgarian. I'm not going to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. He's going to get my vote if he runs.
Are you a liberal?
If not, why wouldn't you throw your support behind a leftist or progressive candidate at least until the primaries are over? I am 100% for not letting perfect be the enemy of the good, but I am also against letting mediocrity be the enemy of the good.
“He’s not perfect” is such a weird way to describe someone whose policies are literally killing people just in his home state. Where and when are we going to draw the line on this shit?
Unless someone better takes the place first. If newsom's all we get then that's what I'll vote for because of how our voting system works, but I have faith that a good quality primary will bring a better candidate to the limelight
Spoiler alert: it will not.
Let me have my positivity while it doesn't count.