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Once again this is normal fascism
Hmm. Yeah. Maybe I should have gone with some other title.
America can only dream of being socialist or communist. Such a confused place that they can’t tell the difference between fascist and socialist
I hate Newsom (and neoliberals in general) but man, this is a good one.
I'd really hate if it does come down to him as presidential frontrunner, but his team's tweets have been incredible
The MAGA turd stains swing back and forth from Fascism to Communism. Fucking hypocrites.
Fascism also implies state control of the economy, so nah this is very in line with historical fascist states.
The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State–a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values–interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people.
Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and economic sphere. (p. 32)
The Fascist State lays claim to rule in the economic field no less than in others; it makes its action felt throughout the length and breadth of the country by means of its corporate, social, and educational institutions, and all the political, economic, and spiritual forces of the nation, organised in their respective associations, circulate within the State. (p. 41).
-Mussolini https://politicalresearch.org/2005/01/12/mussolini-corporate-state
This is why democrats are still losing to trump, they can't give any sort of positive vision for the country. They're turning into reactionaries so whenever trump does some bastardized version of progressive policy, they don't say we'll do that but better, they say that's dumb and we won't do it at all. So anyone who wants the current system to change ( a majority of americans) they see trump as the only one who's even trying it.
If Trump says he's gonna bring peace to the middle east, they need to point out how shitty his plan is and how bad he is at negotiating and then give a better plan, not brag about there close connection to war mongering psychopaths in Israel.
If trump says he's gonna raise tarriffs to bring back jobs, they should point out how untargeted and useless they are and put forward a plan to use them in combination with industrial policy to make green industry in America, like China did.
If trump is taking 10% of intel to probably just sit on, they should say we'll use that stake to guarantee workers rights and to keep jobs in America, not call it communism like some reincarnation of Joseph McCarthy.
This is the most braindead comment I've read here yet. Google search Democratic Party Platform and you'll find a 92 page document covering everything you pretend to be looking for. Now Google the Republican Party platform, and you'll find it's "Whatever Trump wants at any moment'.
You could be complaining out of sheer ignorance, which is a common feature in today's political environment, when a simple Google search has the answers for the 'do your own research' generation, or you are being disingenuous on purpose to push the Both Sides Same narrative.
I am not, nor any normal person, is gonna read that 92 page platform. I am commenting about the messaging they are giving to the masses, like it or not orders of magnitude more people see these Gavin tweets then there platform and this is what's informing there view of the democrats, and that view is terrible. They are at a 30 year low in approval rating, even with the unpopularity of trump to play off. What do you think explains this if not shitty messaging? Cause I think we can both agree there platform is nominally better then the Republicans, yet your average person doesn't believe that.
And the Republicans did have a platform, it was project 2025 and it was full of a lot of extremely unpopular shit. Did that stop them from winning all three branches of government? No, because no one reads a platform.
I believe a piece of it that real solutions a)take a long time to come to fruition (often decades - solar power was proped up by subsidies for a generation before it became economical on its own) and b)have costs (eg making housing more broadly affordable makes it a worse investment) and many people aren't going to take that shit. Solutions next year at no cost (or only at a cost to "other" people) or die.
So any politician who proposes real solutions that can work can't get votes. Politicians who propose fantasy solutions get voted in over and over, because even when their solutions don't pan out, "at least they are trying."
I agree with you that there are certain issues that will require long incremental complex change that is hard to sell to a populace addicted to short simple sound bites. I also believe there are a lot of issues that can be implemented in a congressional term that can be summarized easily, but dems refuse to do them because it would require large systemic change that there donors don't want. Messages like Medicare for all, free childcare, student loan forgiveness all funded by a wealth tax on billionaires. This is a very popular, simple message you can give to the masses while at the same time laying out those long term complex technocratic plans for those who care.
The dems are only giving those technocratic plans though, and it shows as less and less non-college educated people are voting democrat. We can say theyre just stupid sheep but those sheep are a majority of the population and if we don't cater to them, we'll never win another election.
So you can't be bothered to read the Democratic Party's platform, their vision, but you have plenty of time to spend leaving excessively long complaints about how they don't have a vision. Gotcha.
Who gives a flying fuck what you can google? I would have hard time believing them if they were saying it every day on live TV. Some documents barely tied to any politician without loud commitment is not worth the disk space it is occupying.
Your commitment to ignorance is impressive.
Ironically it's a messaging issue. Trump did great with nuh uhing Hillary and just talking up whatever hed do instead rather than saying what it is. The dems need to move to what Bernie did, you scream loudly about what you need done and what the problem is and you tell them that they've been having a hard time.
Ironically yeah, this is an action I would've supported anyone else doing, its just that Trump is so wildly irresponsible and vindictive I suspect hes going to just meddle with the economy on culture war bullshit. Also the whole repealing subsidies that were a great first option before they had the chance to play out
This is the most braindead comment I've read here yet.
OP’s, comment is the most fire comment on this platform.
Stop buying into the propaganda the DNC puts out. The DNC platform can say whatever the fuck it wants they don’t actually do any of it when they get in power. When have they ever actually fought for the things in their party platform?
Fact: Unless you’re 80+ years old, you’ve never seen a Democratic Party like that. 
Ironically, Eisenhower, a Republican was the last administration to do anything approaching what the Democratic Party platform says.  Stop lapping up propaganda and look at reality.
Dems are also all bark, no bite. Hard to get behind a consistently weak, losing team. We finally got a few "squeaky wheels" hoping to make some change. After Bernie got shafted, fuck DNC too. America is bought and paid for, all higher ups are in on it. They only go into politics to fatten their wallets. Fuck you pelosi and anyone else benefiting from insider trading.
Both parties have no positive vision for the country.
The only thing the Democratic Party hates more than Republicans is actual leftists.
Does not get you control, this is just the government giving money to big corporations which is perfectly in line with actual capitalism (as.practiced, not the fairy tale version).
Real capitalists will also have no problem with the government taking over a failing company, paying off it's debts and later selling it at a loss to them.
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Fascists calling eachother communists like this on Twitter while working class people cheer them on for being so funny is just not the future I envisioned or wanted.
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From my post elsewhere in response to Trump's post.
That's socialism, right? Maybe not because the workers won't own the means of production, the government will. Which is communism. Well 10% communism? Well, starting out at the introductory rate of 10%. I'm sure that Trump will demand more in the future.
Remember when Republicans talked about the free market, government not picking winners and losers, free trade, etc? They are being conspicuously silent on the government taking over part of a major company. Imagine if Obama started buying stakes in companies? You don't have to. The federal reserve did it via quantitative easing during the 2008 crash. They pumped trillions into companies to keep them afloat during Obama's term and the Republicans that knew about it had a hissy fit. But they are all quiet now. Nothing to say. It's okay for the government to have a little corporate ownership as a treat. Even though they called it fascism for years.
That’s socialism, right?
The Marxist definition of socialism is that the government owns the means of production. That definition prevailed during the Cold War when you had such socialist countries. Communism is a utopian state which is promised to come after socialism. It's the system of a post-scarcity society where you don't have property because everything is abundant. The state withers away because it is no longer needed. Basically, it's a society like in Star Trek. In Marxist thought, the development is: feudalism->capitalism->socialism->communism
Of course, it's not wrong using the term "socialism" more loosely.
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All of his money is tainted and when it touches other money that money is then tainted. We should take away all that tainted money no matter who has it at the end. His grandchildren should know what it means to work or be destitute.
Fuck Newsom, but his twattering is apparently amusing to some of my very dejected friends who've been in a rut post-2024 election, and that's worth something. Hopefully the combativeness spreads.
I mean yeah, he’s doing what leftists could only dream of, he’s destroying American imperialism
The point was to spread it to the whole world. Mission Accomplished!
If you were paying attention during the Cold War when the US was overthrowing democratic governments and installing fascist dictators you would have already known.
The war is over there is no need for central control anymore. Welcome to your fascist world.
Is that a real twitter account? It's had some bangers lately.
The account belongs to the office of the governor of California. https://x.com/govpressoffice
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/20/gavin-newsom-twitter-trump-00515785
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