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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by autonomoususer@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I really don’t get why so many people are turning this into a privacy versus anonymity debate when the real problem is censorship.

Yes, Signal needs a phone number to sign up, but replacing that with an email or username doesn’t make it anonymous. The real issue is that governments are blocking the registration SMS, so people can’t even sign up for the app in the first place.

Sure, there are workarounds, but most people aren’t going to jump through all those extra hoops just to use an app. If we want to spread privacy, how do we do that when Signal's phone number requirement is actively working against us?

Instead of arguing over privacy versus anonymity, shouldn’t we focus on making sure everyone can access Signal without issues? What do you think?

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[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -1 points 22 hours ago
[-] Ulrich@feddit.org -1 points 21 hours ago

There's any number of reasons for SMS not to be sent. I've had this problem on various platforms as well.

[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The real issue is that people can't register for Signal due to blocked SMS. Arguing privacy vs. anonymity is pointless when access is the problem.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org -1 points 20 hours ago

These are 2 unrelated conversations. If you want to have either one of them, we can do that, but you can't use one to argue the other. You can't argue that you can't sign up for Signal because the service isn't private. That's simply inaccurate.

[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

This is never written anywhere in that comment. Is it too hard to read? Which part is confusing?

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org -1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

You haven't provided any evidence that it's "blocked" or that there is any "denial of service". As far as I can tell, the user has network issues.

[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Why are all the 'network issues' always effecting phone numbers starting with the same country code?

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org -2 points 20 hours ago
[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Get a number like theirs and try it yourself.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org -1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Okay so you don't have any evidence.

[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

You were given the evidence. It's clear you don't want it. A VoIP number does not solve this as the original post already explains.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org -1 points 18 hours ago

You haven't provided any evidence. Only an anecdote.

this post was submitted on 10 Sep 2025
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