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Canada Post workers on nationwide strike after government demands reforms (www.cbc.ca)

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[-] deltapi@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

Because the service you mention is paid for with postage, not taxes. Their shortfall was 841 million last year. Who is supposed to pay for that?
I have direct to door delivery right now. Every day I get flyers for assholes that want to buy my house for pennies on the dollar, and actual mail maybe twice a week.
Why are we paying for delivery the other 3 days?
The simple reality is that daily direct to door delivery isn't necessary any more, and if I had to go for a 5 minute walk to collect my mail 3 times a week, I'd be fine with that.

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 days ago

Then charge more for the junk mail?

why do people continually accept all of our public services getting shittier and shittier every year?

i'm not here to debate the corporate structure of canada post... whether it is a crown corp, or an arms length private corp, or whatever....

It's a vital public service for all citizens... period. Make it work... for everyone...

Your particular use case is just one of thousands... actually, i agree with you. I technically dont need monday-friday service... but some others do and thats fine

[-] deltapi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Here's the thing, right now for my 2-3 days of mail delivery per week, the postal service employee walks by my house every day.
The flyers that get dropped off on non mail days could just as easily be dropped off on the other 2-3 days instead.
This means that effectively for every piece of mail delivered to my house the 40-60% of the 'last mile' part of the postage costs are wasted on extra unneeded trips to/past my door.
For normal mail delivery we already have 5-10 day delivery timeframes. Anyone who accepts that variability doesn't need daily delivery, and those that do need that clockwork delivery are using services like UPS or FedEx.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

And we don't need to door delivery either it's a waste. Most people already don't get it. So what we give it to everyone Wich well increase the budget of Canada Post by alot. Or they get ride of it. Why should only about a quarter of people get special treatment.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -4 points 2 days ago

It is not 'vital'.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Unless the government is going to make Internet access an essential service and make sure all homes have access the same way they have access to electricity and water...

Yes, it is vital that everyone have access to mail.

[-] Feyr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

One thing the USPS does well is sending me an email every morning with a picture of every mail piece that's going to be delivered that day. Then I can decide if it's worth checking the mailbox

I can go weeks without checking it

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 days ago

I go weeks without checking mine and I don't have that feature. Nothing is really time sensitive.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Their shortfall was 841 million last year. Who is supposed to pay for that?

Taxes. It's a government service.
The Department of National Defence had a shortfall of $28.8 billion last year, who is supposed to pay for that?

The 2024 Federal budget had a revenue of 498 billion. The Canada Post "shortfall" was less than 0.2% of the budget.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago

Why should my taxes pay so you can get door service. I've never had that in my life. So why should 75% of the people pay so 25% can get door service. If you want it yiu should pay for it.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Why are you quibbling over a rounding error resulting in someone getting door service? If your concern is taxes there are much bigger fish to fry. (Fish that don't occupy a statistically insignificant portion of the budget)

[-] deltapi@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

I don't see why it should be subsidized with taxes.
Deutsche Post manages to successfully keep mail flowing as an independent self funded service, why can't Canada Post?
The simple fact of the matter is that the union is unwilling to budge on finding ways to improve efficiency because the more employees they have paying dues, the more they get paid.
If this was a private company, they'd be willing to work it out because they'd be afraid of the business folding, but here they think the well runs not just deep, but infinitely so.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

If it was a private company, they wouldn't be obligated to serve every Canadian, no matter where they are.

Canada Post is a public service and should be treated as such.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

I don't see why it should be subsidized with taxes.

I don't see why 0.2% of the annual budget should be a focus of cost concerns. The total expenditure in the 2024 Federal budget was $538 billion dollars. If we subtract the cost of Canada Post from that it would be... About $538 billion dollars.

If this was a private company, they'd be willing to work it out because they'd be afraid of the business folding

That goes for the business refusing to negotiate with the union. If it was a private company they wouldn't have the option of waiting until the government forces everyone back to work without an agreement.