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if this guy had role models besides pigs and had the kind of community that would preempt someone from seeking out andrew tate then those girls would still be alive.
if you want horrible men to not be horrible the intervention needs to happen in their lives somehow.
weird how only men need this. there isnt an equal number of women committing murders. White men maybe having to be equal with some people is devastating to their psyche. the only solution to the white male loneliness "epidemic" would be full blown fascism and slavery.
you're not going to fix white men by changing everybody else.
there are plenty of role models already, but men still seek out andrew tate regardless because under patriarchy they're taught from a young age not to co-exist with women as equals but to expect total submission from women.
they lash out in confusion when that doesn't happen due to the relatively recent advent of women actually being able to exist somewhat independently. the so-called male loneliness epidemic and rise of incel culture is just a consequence of the role they learn to feel entitled to in patriarchal society being diminished.
i grew up with mr rogers and levar burton. both of their shows were off the air by the bush administration. who are the contemporary "plenty of role models" for people this shitwad's age?
i'm male-jacketed because society doesn't know how to handle nonbinary people yet and the 21st century has been a fucking wasteland. there are no positive mens' groups because men are predominantly toxic, there is no competition to the tates and the PUA shit before him. the intervention must come from somewhere, and it's only going to get worse as everyone becomes more isolated and alienated.
Is this the Dorley Hall solution? Just force-feminize all the bad men to solve the problems patriarchy causes? To be clear, there are men that don't need the basement even under Dorley Hall ethics — why aren't you including those men in the list of "role models" and "community"?
Patriarchy harms people of all genders but you can blame both people in a system and the system itself
i have no idea what you're talking about
yeah men like tate are stochastic terrorists, and this guy committed a heinous crime. if you want to prevent things like this then you need to change the culture and change the social situation so that these guys don't get like that in the first place. we're materialists here, address the causes, provide an alternative, etc. but none of that structure exists because cishet men are too toxic to build it themselves and rich men are too entrenched in their control of media.