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First, I don’t know why you’re carrying beef you have with me over into another thread, I don’t even know who you are. Second, that’s a massive mischaracterization of the argument I was making.
The arguments I made to vote for him were never based around “we can fix the system!” sentiment like you seem to be implying, nor did I say electoralism is the answer. The arguments were always based in materialism and how voting could have an impact on it.
Yes, openly running as socialist is an important step. That’s why I think DSA is worth being part of at this moment in time. The internal debate on electoralism is the main ideological split, with one major chunk believing DSA should continue working alongside the Dems, another not believing DSA should engage in electoralism at all ever, and the second major chunk believing DSA should become an outright socialist party, or at least be a socialist party incubator so that when that when the heightening contradictions within the org reach a boiling point, a nucleation point exists and the party apparatus is ready to hit the ground running.
The things Zohran says he will provide are good, it is good that the title of “socialist” will be very publicly tacked on to rent being frozen for 4 years, free busses, childcare, etc., and the visibility of that is important as a point of radicalization for people who will soon have those improvements in material conditions threatened when vocal non-socialists inevitably try to take them away. There is, unfortunately, very little positive connotation with the term socialist in the popular American public forum. Give the average person an improvement in their material conditions that is intrinsically tied to the label socialist, and they will fight for it. Suddenly it becomes a lot easier for people to identify as socialist and to bring them into your movement when you are more tangible to them than a scary buzzword they’ve been propagandized about for 100 years.
inb4 he wins and doesn't do any of that
The rent freeze is very realistic. I don’t see a way it wouldn’t happen unless literally everything we know about him and his history is a lie. It’s a 9 person board that votes on rent raises, and the current balance is 5-4 in favor of raising rent, and one board member is directly appointed by the mayor at will. So that would immediately be 5-4 in favor of a rent freeze.
The rest would require some state/federal funding, but NY State politics at least have establishment dems who may normally oppose funding those programs in hot water, especially coming off a Mamdani win and huge performance in NYC districts.
Complete nonsense, capital has too much control for this to be true.
I don’t understand why you would think that way unless you just don’t understand how the Rent Guidelines Board works. The rent has been frozen multiple times in the past 10 years.
The Rent Guidelines Board has members that serve terms and are supposed to be appointed to represent particular interests (tenants, landlords, though there’s really nothing stopping you from just appointing all tenant-friendly board members to nominally represent the landlords), all of them are appointed by the mayor, and 8/9 serve set terms in their positions. The last RGB member serves directly at the behest of the mayor with no term, ie they are directly appointed by the mayor and a new mayor will replace that board member when they are elected. The current voting balance of the board is 5 in favor of raising rent, 4 in favor of freezing rent. 1 of those 5 in favor of raising rent is the appointee with no term limit serving the will of the Eric Adams administration, who will be replaced when Zohran presumably takes office in January, changing the voting balance immediately to 5-4 in favor of freezing rent.
To most people who don’t understand how this system works, the rent freeze seems to be the most unrealistic policy, when in reality it is easily the most likely to occur. Not only that, it has the ability to extend beyond a Zohran mayoralty when the other board members are replaced with Zohran appointees
If you really think the Zionist shitlord is going to appoint a tenant friendly group I don’t know what to tell you.
Genuinely ignoring reality atp to think he wouldn’t. Fucking Eric Adams, notoriously the most corrupt to landlord class and foreign interests politician in recent NYC history, appointed 4 members who vote to freeze the rent lol.
I hear everybody’s many critiques of Zohran and I have the same critiques, but at some point this critique has become hatejerking with no basis in political reality lmfao
I promise I will apologize if I turn out to be wrong but I won’t be.
It’s just funny that it’s a sticking point because it’s like the only thing I can promise you will happen if he wins