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In grad school I remember being encouraged to submit a paper to a journal that would have charged me a few hundred dollars to put it in for peer review, and I told my advisor no, I needed to buy groceries, I would not throw my money away for an extra line on my CV. He got all flustered and it was a great example of why higher education is so fucked. My advisor, who ostensibly understood my background and means, could not understand how such a relatively small fee would be so prohibitive. He was incapable of understanding that I was essentially unemployed while enrolled as his grad student, and every dollar of funding went to bare essentials so I could continue breathing. He had access to discretionary funds for this exact kind of issue (I found out later), and didn’t think to offer.
Without independent wealth and deep personal connections it’s incredibly difficult to succeed in academia, regardless of the quality of your research.
I got lucky in that my publication was through a journal that doesn't charge money for access or submissions. It's part of our professional organization and our annual membership fees cover the journal's expenses.
Always has been, ~~why do you think he's called SIR Isaac Newton?~~
EDIT : Turns out his knighthood was afterwards, but he did have connections. There are several examples of science being the domain of already rich people.
come on man, don't start with something distasteful even if it's true.
Judaism is distasteful?
Or is it the Danes?
He was a dreadful Bohr
The idea that mentioning someone's Judaism is antisemitic, feeds antisemitism.
“To learn who (secretly) rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to ~~criticize~~ describe.”
Jewish banking and etc are tied to many (false) conspiracy theories. Me mentioning science has been part of the elites and immediately tying someone who happened to have a family that had bankers that were jewish ties into that in a distasteful/false/etc way.
I'm sure it's not intentional, but I don't like giving these idiots more fuel for their fire
Jewish banking is a legacy of antisemitic Christian doctrine in Medieval Europe that restricted the Hebrew people only to professions proscribed (as usury) to Christians such as financial services. Their prevalence in those professions is a historic consequence of discrimination of no fault to the Hebrew people, and acknowledging that reality isn't necessarily distasteful or false.
You're that idiot. Using every little fact as an attack on your worldview isn't healthy. Israel is using that same defense, while creating very powerful connections to censor and shape world politics.
https://sfstandard.com/2025/11/23/extended-courtship-linking-jeffrey-epstein-peter-thiel-israeli-officials/
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-politicians-slam-lammy-over-unannounced-meeting-israeli-foreign-minister
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/07/israeli-diplomat-shai-masot-caught-on-camera-plotting-to-take-down-uk-mps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsvjFKGsDg4
Is is wrong to point that out now too?
Highlighting Jewish banking is anti-semitic. You are correct to challenge this.
But it's mainly one particular family tied to the conspiracy theories (many attribute to a pamphlet printed by Georges Dairnvaell). Ethnicity should not be a shield against scrutiny and criticism.
Also, Newton was not born with the connection, he made them in Grantham. He had a very strained relationship with his mother and step father and was raised by his grandmother.
I was talking about his uncle that gave him an in for University
But I just read that shit off wikipedia so, I'm no scholar. 🤷
Oh, yes I suppose that could be. The way I see it Newton would not have been admitted if he could not keep up.
Really needs to be a wikipedia style service for academic papers.
https://arxiv.org/
Thanks
https://plos.org/
PLOS is a for not for profit corporation. The gatekeepers at PLOS are on Editorial boards and acting like they would at any other journal. Executives make over $300K a year each.
Thanks
https://www.biorxiv.org/
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In grad school your institution should be paying for fees like that. If the school itself isn't paying, then doesn't the supervisor have a grant they can file it under?
Did we not read the same comment? The advisor did have funding for that sort of thing and just plain didn't offer. Maybe he wanted to have a big pizza party or something ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What field were you in? Journal fees should either have been paid by your advisor's funding or they should be the one paying.
Archaeology. But it was in the UK and I’m American so everything was a bit tougher than it should have been. My advisor for sure should have paid, and could have, but he was an asshole who didn’t bother to understand my situation.
Also a archaeologist, very unusual that your department didn't pay for this.
that is wierd, usually the university pays for, why did he mention it if he isnt going to pay, unless he wants to take partial credit too.
Uuhh, beyond the fucked up publishing system, your advisor was a self destructive dick. It was his job to pay that. His lab and career benefit and hes the one that gets funding for research operations.
He was likely an unfunded loser who could not even get a grant to cover page charges.
No advisor expects a student to pay publication charges. My lab pays about $10,000/yr into this racket.
I don’t know what to tell you. Your experiences are your own, and I’m glad your lab takes care of you.
thats why its so gatekeeped, cant get a career in biotech, research you have to be published at some point, very few get it at undergrad let alone trying to get lab experience or even an INTERNSHIP. thats why most bio majors are health and not something as convoluted as research. its a cascading problem.
oh bullshit.