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So, considering this is Lemmy I'll clarify. I'm not talking about your neighbor who voted for Trump or your uncle who's always been a dick. I'm talking about coming in contact with a deep down evil scary human. I've only met one that I can think of. When I was 12 or 13 I spent a ton of time at my best friends house. He lived on a big beautiful rural property with his dad, a few brothers and always one or two random dudes. His dad was a good electrician and a biker. So, he always had friends/associates hanging around. So one day I was staying over for a long weekend and we met a new guy his dad was housing for a week or two. Dude was a real full fledged nazi. Had a swastika under his eye and tats all over most of his body. He was from California I guess. He was "working" with my buddies dad for awhile. Anyway, the main interaction I had with him was when he pulled my friend and I in for a sermon. We were going to go hunt squirrels and do rural kid shit. He stopped us outside and had us sit on the porch. Spent about 20 minutes explaining all the things youd imagine a nazi explains. Moslty about catholics, jews and blacks. My friends dad came out after awhile and told him we didn't need to hear that shit. He sent us away, but, I never forgot the look this dude had in his eyes. It was like the look of complete bordem mixed with extreme anger all the time.

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[-] pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 months ago

My grandmother used to bait a have a hart trap to catch local cats. She would let them finish whatever morsel she tempted them with, asked if they enjoyed their last meal, and would throw the trap in the pond. She would then call my cousin to come drag the trap out of the pond and bury the cat.

Is that evil?

[-] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah, thats really fucked up

[-] stepan@lemmy.cafe 3 points 5 months ago

I'm sorry you've had such a monster be your grandmother

[-] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

killing/tortuing animals is psychopathic behavior. especially if it is done deliberately.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago

I wouldn't say killing animals is categorically psychopathic, but killing them inhumanely certainly is.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

The language of "inhumanely" has always bothered me. They aren't humans. It's an odd word.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone -3 points 5 months ago

This is a pretty standard method of pest control, were the cats wild pests? Or are we talking neighbours cats?

Cats should not be allowed to freely roam the streets

[-] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Call me a woke weakling, but I believe even in pest control, you shouldn't make another being suffer. If you have to kill something for a good reason, the fucking least you can do is make it quick. If you don't have the gender-neutral balls to do it properly, you shouldn't do it at all.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone -4 points 5 months ago

Indeed, drowning is a good method that doesn't accidentally kill the wrong targets and is not causing prolonged suffering like many traps that latch onto the animal. What would you use to kill pests?

[-] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

From what I have heard, drowning sucks as a death. Just shoot them? Or decapitate? Or use anything else that takes seconds instead of minutes?

To be fair, I have never had to heal with a cat plague, the biggest thing I've come near were rodents and fish. No idea how practical it is. But again, if one doesn't have the means for a humane killing, then don't be the one killing.

Also, I'm pretty sure those "beartrap" style traps are illegal here, and poison traps are usually designed to allow target only one species (usually, rats, since you can't get them any other way).

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone -1 points 5 months ago

I think it's pretty hard for random members of the population to successfully decapitate animals. Not everyone is able to use a gun. Drowning is quick with no probability of failure or extended suffering.

[-] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Eh, drowning is probably the biggest suffering you can create without going for extra effort. Just because it's quiet doesn't mean it's fast, I'd take being beaten to death over being drowned any day.

Besides, as I said, if you are not able to kill something quickly, you are not qualified to kill it. People who do stuff like catch fish and then leave them to suffocate just piss me off. If you don't have the ability to at the very least bash it over the head, then get someone to do it for you.

[-] Burninator05@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Not cats but I had a coworker once that put out glue traps for mice but wouldn't finish the job after they were caught. I ended up dropping a 20 pound weight from waist high on them. It was the quickest way to do it with what I had available. I spoke to him after and there were no more glue traps.

[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

No, that's not normal. The fuck?

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Far better than leaving poisoned baits for random animals to eat that are not the intended target, or traps that cause extreme suffering in the same manner as bear traps, and doesn't require guns which are very hard to access now

[-] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Well for one, Why do they have to be killed at all? For two, if they do have to be killed, drowing is also a horrific level of fear and suffering. It would be more humane to just hit it in the head with a hammer. But again, why do they HAVE to be killed and why is a geriatric grandmother taking on that responsibility?

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Maybe the commenter can tell us

Feral cats kill an extreme amount of native wildlife here and are essentially the sole cause of extinction for many animals. You cannot rehome feral cats as pets and there's basically nowhere to take them.

[-] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I have two former street cats....

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone -1 points 5 months ago

There's a bit of a difference between domesticated street cats and feral wild cats...

[-] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I've had barn/outdoor cats too, so long as they are fixed its a non issue. Is it really better in your area to drown them than try and home them?

[-] Pazintach@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

This is eye-opening, in a post that talks about evil people. If it's for population control, isn't it usually Trap, Spay, Return? But then again, there are some parts of the world people can torture or causally kill cats and dogs with no legal consequences. Humans are disappointing.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone -1 points 5 months ago

Wild cats are driving our native animals to extinction

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 months ago

Again, that's what capture, spay and release is for. You can control the wild cat population without resorting to putting them through a slow, extremely painful and terrifying death. Don't be a monster.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Releasing them is entirely inappropriate. Roaming cats kill 546 million native animals per year. Always kill.

https://invasives.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Pet-cat-impacts-June-2023.pdf

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Waits for them to finish eating and asks if they enjoyed their last meal. She was actively humanizing them before drowning them.

[-] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Catching and drowning them is standard pest control in what world??? What a terrible way to die. If it was pest control, DPW or similar should/would be taking care of it, not some random geriatric.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone -2 points 5 months ago

It's pretty good in comparison with almost every other method. It's pretty privileged to assume everyone can hire professionals for pest management and even then their methods are usually worse. What method would you be suggesting?

[-] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Well, we are talking about an instance that happened in a developed nation. In most developed nations Department of Public Works exist for towns and counties. DPW or animal control covers that in my state at least. Me personally? Catch and kill with a gun because I live in a country that allows its citizens to own them. If I didn't have a gun? One strike to the head with a large rubber mallet. Or if I've already gone to the trouble of catching them, maybe some kind of poison/medication. I want you to remember you're taking the side of catching and drowning random cats in this situation as a good thing.

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