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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Andrzej3K@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Do you know how often bourgeois democracies elect "socialists"? Hell, many of them even elect "communists" on the regular. It's normal. Get over it. Please.

EDIT - there are basically two main genres of Mamdani poster, both of which keep scrawling MAMDANI on the wall in their own excrement for different reasons, and they all seem to be assuming I am from the other side lol

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[-] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Its wild to me that people expect one congress person or one mayor or whatever to lead the fucking workers vanguard.

They want big man theory but with AOC and when that doesn't happen they get mad that AOC didn't fulfil their fantasy of participating in the workers vanguard

[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

They want big man theory but with AOC and when that doesn't happen they get mad that AOC didn't fulfil their fantasy of participating in the workers vanguard

This is a strawman. Most people complaining are just tired of seeing praise heaped on imperialist social democrats because they're American and they claim to be socialists.

[-] MizuTama@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah but the person above is arguing directly against that, saying no great man could save this.

Some do have that reasoning, and they are people being disillusioned from their liberalism. Others are tired of what they see as the praising of blatant opportunism.

I.e some want a great person to rise up and create the party and are upset when betrayed, and others are tired of seeing, "the Mensheviks are the way!"

But this topic doesn't just concern the "Great Man" when these debates pop up, as this often is the result of genuine organizating efforts. If a Mamdani administration doesn't do much to advance a socialist cause, harms it, etc. that is thousands who spent months of effort backing an opportunist cause instead of something that may actually advance struggle, and desiring to prevent that in anyway is obvious. Not every critic is productive of course, but it is something worth struggling over as it is a fundamental question of tactics.

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