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We have no knowledge of why it was there in the first place, we're only given one side of the story. Maybe this was closer to a crosswalk, or nextdoor was less safe. We don't even know if the stop existed there before she moved in. We don't know. All we know is old lady didn't like view of people outside her window and decided that instead of dealing with it she had to change it herself.
We also don't know if the entire story is real. We don't know why you are so triggered by it.
you are free to give it the worst possible reading. it is a story I heard from family of events that happened maybe 70 years ago. the stakes couldn't be lower. unless you figure which municipality and bus stop were talking about, then you can complain and have the bus stop reinstated in front of the bedroom I might inherit someday
I'm forced to give it the worst possible reading because we don't have the other side. Personally, I read this as some HOA type who can't be bothered to have a few people milling around while waiting for the bus.
You're literally not, in any way, forced to do that. That is a decision you have made.
For context I got a picture of the place in google maps. and discovered that said bus station is no longer there at all, but I have marked were the bedroom is, the original location (straight in front of their window. and the exchanged location, no one was inconvenienced by that change. and albeit it was a minor inconvenience for my great grandparents, the fix was trivial.
To me, that's even less of a reason. They could still see in, she could still see them, I side with the city still. What was the point of moving it except wasting taxpayer money?
You picked one hell of a weird hill to die on.
Right? This is the angriest I've ever seen anyone be about a bus stop being moved 10 feet 70 years ago.
How exactly was any tax payer money wasted? the whole exchange cost nothing at all.
And siding with some municipality Karen from the 50s is one hell of a specific hill to die on. lets face it, you are objectively wrong. despite the non existence evidence and records of this event, you are still wrong.
Chances are the municipality did not want to spend the funds (practically costs nothing) to move a sign a few metres, but it mattered a lot to the residents. and when they had to rebuild it, then it would have been free to move. instead they were stubborn and lazy and all it took is a bit of direct action.
Hold on, you never said residents. If this was a neighborhood-wide push then I would be open to it. The neighborhood may have a good reason to say bus stop should be here or there, if there were many home owners asking for a change then that is something I would agree with. Maybe there's a coffee shop a block away that more people congregate at and it would be better used there, maybe people don't want to j-walk to catch their bus. Those are reasons that make it worth changing - for the good of the public and the neighborhood.
However, if it was one house then as I've said and stand by, I view it as selfishness. I see it as one person dictating how many others can or can not go about their time on public property, and trying to dictate to the city where they can or cannot put public services on their own land. I don't care if it was 70 feet or 700 feet, it's one person with a minor, tiny, insignificant change. I said this elsewhere and I stand by it:
The best reason I heard is that maybe it was an issue with how loud the bus was, that one may have credence. However, pushing it closer to the neighbor doesn't seem like a solution, and it seems like it should be a neighborhood discussion.
Why do you care?
because to me it's pure NIMBY-ism. Maybe it's because I'm a city guy, who is used to whatever going on around my home, but it's just a weird thing from my perspective to get upset about. I personally just don't see anything that's worth going to city council and complain about. To me I see a bus stop which from the image below looks like it's a very suburban street so we're talking a few dozen people a day, max. Whatever the reasons were in my opinion were selfish. They didn't want to see them out their window? Deal with it. You want privacy? Close the curtains. Someone is loud? They're there for 20 minutes max until the next bus. Or what is most likely from the photo - they probably wanted a parking space there. I don't see any reason to push to move it that wasn't selfish.
It's the city's property. It's on the city's sidewalk, it's for the city bus, and street parking is public funds for private vehicles. It's theirs to do with as they will. The homeowner has rights up to the edge of the property. The city has a duty to provide ingress and utilities to that property. To me it's the definition of Karen-ing.
People disagree with me. Fine, but I'm holding my ground. I call it selfish. Yeah it's 70 feet, but it all in my mind is "The city must change their plan and their property for my convenience"
or maybe the city council couldn't be bothered to move the sign a few meters to the left, and the fact that the construction still went through and nobody complained or pointed out any possible problems means that it was a non-issue
So you admit you have no knowledge of this, yet assume it fucks the public to have it moved a few feet to the left?
Your defense is entirely based on speculation that makes your side look correct, when you simply made it up out of thin air. That is not a legitimate position.