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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Lussy@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Oh no, my miserable life that’s devoid of any connection and anyone altogether otherwise *at least contains a friend.

What the fuck man, is this a real concern average people have that I’m way too fucking alienated to understand

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[-] pooberbee@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 year ago

I don't buy the misogyny arguments here. I remember being a teenager, and that shit feels desperate. Everybody else is hooked up and they seem so happy, and you've found someone you feel like you can really connect with, but they don't feel the same. So you've made a big deal of it in your mind and when they say "I think of you more as a friend", it feels like a full-on breakup.

Of course, you still have to get over it, just like a breakup. Learning to deal with that stuff is part of growing up.

Even as an adult, couples tend to hang out with other couples, and it can be challenging to be the single person in a group.

I know some people go too far, wallowing in self-pity over being friendzoned, and it can poison a person. Maybe it seems silly from the outside, and you think they should just get over it, but I think people deserve empathy and support as much as possible. Ideally we can help people work through their shit and not let this little blip in their lives come to define them.

Okay I'm done rambling. Thanks for reading.

[-] DroneRights@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

What part of "you've found someone you feel like you can really connect with" excludes being friends or queerplatonic partners with that person? Ideally all your friendships should have a deep feeling of personal connection and love.

[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I agree principally, I think a good percentage of people in the world reserve that kind of intimacy for their romantic partner, or select one or two long-term friends already in their life. So if they're unwilling to have a romance, I think the odds are very small that a deep personal connection will then bloom.

[-] DroneRights@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

So then we're back at the issue that people hate being friendzoned because they refuse to value friendships

[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think people hate being friendzoned because others' ideas of 'friendships' likely doesn't match include the level of personal connection they want. It would be cool if everyone was willing and able to have deep personal connections with their friends, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect it. I don't think reserving deep intimacy for a specific few people is the same as 'refusing to value friendships'.

It's a fair way to live one's life, but it will mean it's not unreasonable for other people to be disappointed when told they can't establish in that deeper connection.

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