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this post was submitted on 02 Sep 2023
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When a lemmy thread is put in the dunktank and people go to the thread from the post in the dunktank even if it isn't linked it still is brigading, it's brigading when the tankiejerk places do it to lemmygrad too, it's funneling people into a thread that they only saw because it was posted in the dunktank. If that isn't brigading then nothing is brigading.
It's disengenious to try to spin it as people only finding stuff in the all tab, because people do jump into the threads they see in the dunktank and that definitely hasn't contributed to making any goodwill for this site among other instances, if the person deserves to be dunked on people will find it they dont need a giant bat signal post in the dunktank to figure it out.
I do think most of the people put in there deserve it on some level, but you guys are speedrunning every other user to instance ban hexbear whenever that comes out.
I disagree with your idea of brigading. It's a public space, why does it matter how people get there? What matters is what they're actually doing. Why would anyone care how someone got somewhere, if they're not doing anything else wrong? And how is disagreeing with someone, or telling a bigot to fuck off wrong?
To me, the issue is trying to destroy the space itself. But honestly, if telling a bigot to fuck off destroys the space, how much am I supposed to care? Why would anyone care about a space where bigots are protected? Do people genuinely see a space full of bigots as a space worth saving?
The only reason it matters is the term brigading explicitly pertains to "how people get there"
You can think it's a good thing, that's not unreasonable, it's just what the term means, I personally trust the mods on most of the places I post to so far hexbear included, they have not given me a reason to distrust them, I have not seen egregious bigotry staying up after being reported
Yes, and its the least important part of the definition. Unless there's intentional destruction, its not brigading. Even people who care about brigading very rarely care how people find posts. Its only when they feel people are being destructive that they care.
When I arrived here I got called a wrecker by about a dozen or so bears because I believe in dronegender rights. They said that speaking in favour of drone rights would have a destructive effect on the space.
Guess what? I didn't shut up and now Hexbear supports trans rights. Win. Destroying the toxic and oppressive parts of communities is good. It lets the rest of the space shine.