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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Tachanka@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

https://sh.itjust.works/post/4274675

To this I say, no. As a community, we do not deny proven genocides, like the holocaust, or the genocide against indigenous Americans by various European colonizers, or the genocide against the Congolese by Belgium, or the Bengal famine that was carried out by the British empire. In fact, denying those genocides will get you banned, here. However: we are also aware of a tendency of nations to project their crimes onto others, and to manufacture atrocity propaganda to justify overthrowing or destroying rival governments... like Libya in 2011:

From Washington Bullets by Vijay Prashad (a great book I highly recommend)

A post from Michael Parenti regarding the destruction of Libya by NATO-backed reactionaries

A headline shortly after Libya's destruction by NATO-backed reactionaries

The US government has been reenacting the fable of the Boy Who Cried Wolf, and has been cynically leveraging the very serious accusation of genocide against its geopolitical enemies. This is the source of skepticism on Xinjiang. And this is not a new strategy, yes, the Holodomor, which everyone in the US has been taught to take seriously lately, is a nazi fabrication first spread to the United States in the works of Robert Conquest. Why would the USSR deliberately starve a fellow socialist Republic? Why would Stalin, a Georgian, have some kind of Russian chauvinist grudge against Ukrainians? Why would Lenin (Donbass), Stalin (Lviv), and Khruschev (Crimea) all expand the territory of the Ukrainian SSR while also trying to kill off the people inside of it? Why would the USSR ethnically cleanse Ukrainains while simultaneously sending food aid to the starving British colony in Bengal? Natural famines and crop failures were spun by the nazis into atrocity propaganda. Also, a state does not have to be perfect to be defended against false accuations. I think China is far from perfect, but the burden of proof is on the United States to prove its accusations (which have changed in scope several times) regarding Xinjiang. Delegations from Muslim majority nations visiting Xinjiang do not agree with the United States that there is a genocide of the Uyghur people. There is however an attempt to reeducate extremist groups like ETIM. Reeducating extremists might seem a harsh government policy, but I assure you it is a better way of dealing with religious fundamentalism than drone striking weddings or air striking hospitals like the USA did in Afghanistan.

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[-] Othello@hexbear.net 75 points 1 year ago

omg its you! aint you tired. thing of all the productive things you could have done with your free time.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago
[-] Othello@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

you have a whole catalog of of post from us. also and i dont mean this as an insult as a fellow autistic person. almost all of your screenshot post are jokes. like your missing the jokes bud, your not gonna understand them from an outside perspective. also this is literally the nicest kindest least racist place place on the internet. it would be great if you could leave us alone. maybe get into a irl hobby. I like to write.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

it's actually from lemmygrad. don't really care about hexbear. you can insult me as much as you want, my comrade, makes no difference to me.

[-] Othello@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

well it should matter. how people treat you matters. maybe your spending too much time in these hate filled spaces, people should be kind to each other, you should be in a space where that is expected. and Lemmy.grad is our sister site and I care for them. plus ever since federation many users have been harassed including sexually harassed. Im not saying your post are sending them here but there are people on the internet who see it as a moral imperative to cause distress to our users, mostly our fem users. once you label someone and dehumanize them in your mind you can do anything to them. and thats whats been done to this community. you dont even see us as human beings just "tankies" to attack. maybe you could try to not spread negativity that has the potential to insight harm. I hope you really take this into consideration. plus if were all just teenage larper like yall say whats the harm? theres no real world impact if youre right. leave us be.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

In this thread users are calling me racist.

you can drop that whole holier-than-thou bullshit lol

[-] Othello@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

well considering you have been harassing us and our friends and you are being racist thats seems fair. what else could you expect. part of being the one of the least racist places on the internet is not tolerating racism. i dont think its wrong or hostile to call someone being racist a racist. also I should have clarified that you shouldn't expect hostility (unless you are being hostile first). the point still stands, that you are so unnecessarily angry and toxic by your post history. its not good, but I see empathy isnt going to work here.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

bruh you harassed me first lmao. and I'm not racist.

in fact, you're offending me right now, and making me VERY uncomfortable. you should be kind and caring for others.

[-] Othello@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lol ok troll. have fun being miserable and sad forever. cant say I didnt try to be nice shrug-outta-hecks if you cant handle this polite convo maybe the problem is you.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

saying that I started harassing you and calling me racist is your version of being nice? Goodness, I'd hate to see you doing charity work.

[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago

You are a racist anti-Chinese bigot who has not taken the time to educated themselves on the stuff they speak on to even a morsel of a degree. Go back to your ducking Fox News with this bullshjt

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Why would you waste your Sunday doing this?

[-] Grimble@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Famously the most disrespectful thing you can do is accuse someone of racism, which happens everyday to innocent people for no reason. The smartest reaction, as we all know, is to keep vocally deflecting it and acting like you've been insulted.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have you considered not being racist? It's pretty easy actually. I don't get called racist all the time

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

The lord's day of rest. Naughty person. Go say a bunch of hail marys or something.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

may we take prayer

[-] Grimble@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

..And im alternating between drafting a webcomic, worldbuilding for a personal project, daily lifting, and studying for upcoming CompSci classes. Volunteered at a soup kitchen yesterday. Still have time to Post. Surely you've got something to do.

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