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"Trippy" Reality (lemmy.world)

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https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality

https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/5-illusions-reveal-brain-warps-reality

https://www.sciencenewstoday.org/how-the-brain-interprets-reality-a-neuroscience-perspective

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[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 42 points 2 weeks ago

amanita muscaria will give you the shits for hours. There are better psychedelics.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

There's a valuable lesson here, and it's to avoid using comic strips to identify the mushrooms you should eat to trip.

[-] GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago

Instead, rely on the comments

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

What you want is penis... envy. Specifically the albino kind

[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago

He's got the mushroom in his hand as well as a pipe and a tab, I think they're just referring to psychs in general, but you're right, maybe they should've put more of a brown mushroom

[-] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Amanita muscaria is NOT psychedelic though, it's a deliriant. It can cause hallucinations, but it is not serotonin based, and psychedelics work on serotonin receptors.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago

its also a deleriants, so it wont give you pleasant hallucinations. people try to do this with diphenhydramine too, but you would have to tak a ton of it.

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Bullshit!

Says who? I have done it both wet and dry many many times and never experienced that, and I've talked to people online about it a lot and nobody has mentioned that. So where are you getting this claim? I say that knowing that there are groups trying to make it illegal that have been spreading lies including that ibotenic acid causes brain bleeds based on a single discredited study repeated ad nauseam.

You are on some Reefer Madness bullshit aren't you? Admit it!

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Maybe you are less susceptible to it, or are ingesting a variety more unique to your region, but nausea and diarrhea are extremely common side effects.

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

Throwing up not long after ingesting the tea is normal, yet you have no idea what you are talking about here.

You are cooperating in a puritanical campaign to make this mushroom illegal, maybe you don't realize that's what you are doing, but that is going out right now. Stop it.

You also have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

Dude, relax and go mushrooming. All I said is it gives you the shits and there are better substances.

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I want a source for that. Because I called bullshit.

[-] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

They really jumping down your throat, huh? Iv never done the red ones with the white dots, but Iv done a few different types. Also Iv read about mushrooms, what may look the same aint always the same. And then the same shroom (or same looking shroom) from another region can be vastly different.

And then yes we as people will react different than another person might react to the same shroom.

Anywhoots.

[-] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean it doesn't give me the shits lol, sorry your bowels can't handle it

[-] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

So you clean out your pipes while you clean out your pipes?

What's the downside here?

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I want a source for that disparaging comment which is incorrect. Also it's not a psychedelic and the fact that you described it as such destroys your credibility. You have no idea what you were talking about and are repeating puritanical propaganda.

For shame. Maybe you should go talk about the reefers online.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Firstly, the comic above uses the word psychedelic while showing an Amanita Muscaria. I never called it that but honestly, I'm not an expert and don't know the technical definitions of that type of thing, I'm just a guy that likes mushrooms.

Outside of my personal experience of having about 30 minutes of fun followed by 6 hours of not fun, here is the first result I got when searching for 'amanita muscaria side effects'

Emerging Risks of Amanita Muscaria: Case Reports on Increasing Consumption and Health Risks

People can have all sorts of different reactions to mushrooms, like I've never died from eating raw false morels, but others have.

Do you have a souce that says Amanita Muscaria doesn't give most people nausea and diarrhea?

I have heard however that the juice produced from dehydration has a lot less unwanted side effects, but I didn't bother to test that myself.

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

There are several thousand years of case history that do not mention anything about these reports you mentioned with a government website. Reports that do not match my own experience. This mushroom has the longest recorded use of any drug plant or fungi in the northern hemisphere, and here you are spreading bullshit to help make it illegal. Now maybe you do not know that's what you're doing but that's what you're doing. The government is not a fucking reliable source.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

Somehow I knew you wouldn't trust or read any source I could provide.

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

On the contrary I will read it, later, when I'm in the mood for some dark fiction I repeat, the government is not a reliable source on this issue.

You should know that

[-] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

The only source you provide comes from an organization that reports to donald trump. . .

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago

Here is another.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/amanita-muscaria

[-] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Can't find the word diarrhea in there

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago

The most common symptoms from ibotenic-acid containing mushroom ingestions are gastrointestinal symptoms, and CNS depression or excitation, or both CNS depression and excitation. Other symptoms include confusion, dizziness, dysphoria, visual hallucinations, agitation, ataxia, muscle fasciculation, seizures and coma depending on the amount of mushroom consumed. Seizures are generally reported only in pediatric ingestions.