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[-] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

There's also the Dark Forest hypothesis - the idea that maybe many alien civilizations exist out there but stay silent because revealing themselves would make them targets/prey to a more high-tech hostile civilization.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

3 body problem is a good book for thought experiments, but it didn't really discuss the arguments against the dark forest hypothesis

  • assumes universal hostility.

  • Interstellar warfare is protracted and impractical.

  • Ignores potential cooperation and ethical diversity.

  • assumes aliens think like humans

[-] ericwdhs@discuss.online 2 points 10 hours ago

Regarding the first point, I think it just assumes the possibility for hostility, not the universality of it. If there's a room with a thousand people and I know one person in the room has a gun and wants to kill me, I'm still going to hesitate to enter regardless of the 999.

Also, any intelligence that arises out of evolution is going to have at least the rough concept of violence.

Counterarguments

The 999 are going too overpower the violent 1.

The concept of peace will be known and experience will have demonstrated that it is more valuable than war.

[-] Bunitonito@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I'd imagine any intelligent alien life form would be intelligent enough to realize that they've reached a point at which they can simply life in a sustained utopia. Heal the planet, work less, fill time with hobbies and pursuits. Humans have this flaw, and it's that the mentally ill squander the world's wealth and use it for dick-measuring contests. A small minority of us will kill their own mother for a job promotion, and the people at the very top want to squander it all so they see another 0 in their bank account, or outrace the other 7 megabillionaires to the dick-measuring contest on Mars. I could only hope aliens aren't as as stupid. We could just litter the earth with trees, solar panels, 2 br condos, and hammocks, and have AI work for us, but nope. Every single die shrink leads to more transistor density and never any power efficiency because big numbers are better for shareholders. They sold us downstream. If any alien contacts us or leaves a trace they're most likely just as dangerous to our survival as we are. Space conquistadors

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