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[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

China: persues peaceful reunification with Taiwan

The West: "LOOK!!! THEY'RE LIKE US! WORSE THAN US!!!" invades nation illegally

Okay, buddy.

[-] ManixT@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

China: Doesn't even consider Taiwan's right exist and is forcing their unification with aggressive military incursions in their territory.

Tankie like you: ALL WEST BAD, ONLY CHINA GOOD AND EVERY VALID CRITICISM IS WESTERN PROPAGANDA.

Okay, buddy.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social -1 points 1 month ago

"ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME MUST BE A TANKIE!!!"

I'm not a Tankie, and you can check through my entire comment history to easily confirm that. I just can't help but notice that people have been saying "China is about to attack Taiwan any day now" for years and it never comes. Maybe they're just not as bad as us?

[-] ManixT@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The fact you think china is pursuing peaceful unification kind of outs you. They are not giving Taiwan a choice; comply or face death.

Also I want all nations to behave better, especially Israel and the US right now. I don't generally think China is bad and the people certainly are not, but bad actions should be called out and criticized regardless of who you are. That's how we become better people.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social -1 points 1 month ago

Israel: does a genocide

China: flies a plane near a country they've been at war with for over 70 years

Liberals: "hmm yes these seem about the same to me"

[-] ManixT@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Who said anything about being the same? Israel is the worst offender in the world.

China is planning for an invasion of Taiwan, so they're certainly putting together a backup plan in case Taiwan doesn't agree to become part of China. Doesn't seem like they'd need that sort of thing if they were being truly peaceful.

It's also things like your analysis being "flies a plane near a country" that is a sign you aren't being adequately critical of china and I question your seriousness and reasons.

I mean, seriously, look at this map and tell me how you consider this "peaceful":

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago

China is planning for an invasion of Taiwan,

Yeah, they've been planning to invade next week for decades now...

[-] ManixT@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I mean, they literally are planning for an invasion. Whether they will is up for debate, but they're definitely designing their naval fleet for it and performing exercises simulationing an invasion.

[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

People have been saying that about Russia for many years until it happened.

Unlike Trump, most leaders aren't rushing into things. They wait until conditions are favourable, and there are an incredible number of conditions to take into account for operations like this.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social -1 points 1 month ago

Other people wrongly believed that Russia, despite having already invaded Ukraine in 2014, that Russia would not invade Ukraine again, for some reason. I am not those people. I am pointing out to you that they have had those favorable conditions already, a number of times, and no invasion ever came. If you want to believe that they just have just one more condition to take into account before invading Taiwan, you have the right to believe that.

But the United States is far worse, and that was my entire point. I don't want to defend China. Fuck China. But the US has done imperialism for centuries at this point

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems -1 points 1 month ago

You don't have to be a tankie to recognize that they are enforcing international law. In that context of a civil war their actions are uncharacteristically peaceful.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago

China: Doesn’t even consider Taiwan’s right exist

Perhaps

and is forcing their unification with aggressive military incursions in their territory.

Really? Sources please.

[-] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Alright, Winnie The Pooh's anal pinworm.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social -1 points 1 month ago

"I already decided you're wrong, but I can't argue with facts, so I'll insult you instead. I rest my case."

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

peaceful reunification

This is top tier trolling, I can't XD

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

From the Associated Press, April 10th, 2026:

Taiwan’s opposition leader met Friday with Chinese President Xi Jinping at Beijing’s Great Hall of the People, the first such encounter in over a decade, with both sides affirming the need for maintaining peace around the self-ruled island that China claims as its territory.

Both Xi and Cheng Li-wun, the head of the Beijing-friendly Kuomingtang Party, reiterated they wanted to move toward a peaceful reunification of Taiwan and the mainland, though it remains unclear how they would achieve it. China hasn’t ruled out the use of force and has stepped up its military exercises around Taiwan, sending warships and fighter jets closer toward the island and steadily poaching Taiwan’s few remaining diplomatic allies.

Xi welcomed Cheng and her party’s representatives in the Great Hall of the People, where he usually meets world leaders, to a round of applause from both sides. “The larger trend of compatriots on both sides of the strait walking nearer, closer, and together will not change. This is a historical necessity. We have full confidence in this,” he said.

“Although people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait live under different systems, we will respect each other and move towards each other,” Cheng said, adding: “We will seek systemic solutions to prevent and avoid war.”

This is just the reality on the ground. Neither party wants war. The PRC reserves the right to millitant reunification, but is currently working towards peaceful reunification and simply waiting it out, until Taiwan wants it. The PRC has the luxury of time, here, as the PRC continues to rise economically and the US Empire continues to fall, it will only make more and more sense for Taiwan to want to further integrate with the mainland economically. Until then, the people of Taiwan want the status quo, and the PRC is fine to wait it out and continue to push for dialogue.

[-] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

First off it's the opposition leader, not the president, who is vocal about Taiwan remaining sovereign. Second, if I threaten someone with annihilation, and they say "hey we can negotiate peacefully," and I say sure I'll negotiate but (in that article) "war is not off the table," I as the person threatening them with annihilation am not being peaceful here.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Taiwan is governed by the remnants of the former Chinese government, back when they were nationalists. Chiang Kai-Shek and his group fled to Taiwan, murdered the local opposition, and claimed they were still the legitimate government of all of China. The question isn't if Taiwan is a part of China, but which government is legitimate.

Over time, this has been complicated by the US Empire using Taiwan as a forward operating base. Some want a clean break, some want further integration, but now the majority want the status quo. What is deeply unpopular is war. Taiwan does not want to become Ukraine 2, they do not want the US Empire to provoke a hot war just to damage China at the expense of Taiwanese people.

The CPC in all of this knows that the US Empire is failing, and that Taiwan will be increasingly pressured economically towards reintegration. All they need to do is wait, and they get what they want without firing a shot.

[-] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

None of this is false but that doesn't mean China isn't threatening military action and waiting for their chance to strike. Being peaceful with the threat of force is not the same as just being peaceful, if a mobster says "pay me off if you don't want any trouble" they're not peacefully negotiating. To be honest I'm surprised they haven't taken more action against Taiwan, when trump would probably say "it's their country, it's their territory, its rightfully theirs."

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Both governments consider themselves the legitimate governments of China, which includes Taiwan. Wanting to become an independent country entirely is a minority opinion in Taiwan. As such, the PRC as a sovereign nation of course will reserve the right to retake its own territory by force. It isn't at all surprising that they haven't taken more direct millitant action against Taiwan, though, for precisely the reasons I have said: they are willing to wait until Taiwan chooses to reunify. They gain nothing by striking Taiwan to take it by force, when they can just maintain the status quo until it works out in their favor.

The reason it's surprising to you is that you have the assumption that the PRC feels compelled to strike. This is something constantly fearmongered about by the west, but doesn't actually hold water. By all measures, events seem to be moving in the exact direction the PRC predicts they will, which would make it a mistake to strike Taiwan.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

as the PRC continues to rise economically and the US Empire continues to fall, it will only make more and more sense for Taiwan to want to further integrate with the mainland economically.

Taiwan has TSMC, they don't need China.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

You can't pin your entire economy on a single company in a single sector, especially when your performance isn't certified forever.

[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 0 points 1 month ago

""""peaceful"""" with a country that wants independence.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

"""a country""" here meaning about 5% of the people in a country.

[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 0 points 1 month ago

100% of the people in a country with everything you would expect a country to have and a strong Taiwanese national identity.

[-] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

There is no 'Taiwanese national identity.' The KMT eradicated what was left of the native Taiwanese population (to be fair that genocide was started by Japan, like nearly all genocides in East Asia). There are no native 'taiwanese' left, just primarily han chinese that invaded, eradicated the native population during a civil war, and declared themselves the last bastion of China.

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social -1 points 1 month ago

Yes, that's right. The Chinese Civil War never ended, the KMT and the CPC never signed a peace treaty. The fighting stopped because there was no way to take back control of Taiwan without high casualties - on both sides. Since then, the CPC have been committed to taking back control of Taiwan peacefully. At the moment, the people of Taiwan continue to support independence - but also the One China Policy, which recognizes that there is only One China. The CPC wants to re-unify, but rather than doing that by force, they just maintain their position and encourage peaceful reunification. But there are still moments of tension, of course, each tests the responses of the other, the limits of their radar, and so on. But people aren't dying.

By contrast, the US is carpet bombing Iran, at the behest of Israel, because Iran threatens Israel's lebensraum ambitions to turn the Middle East into Greater Israel. You really believe China is still as bad as the US? Seriously??

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