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[-] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Wait it gets funnier:

Objection 1: As a Christian, you should turn the other cheek.

Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed.

Got it, so activism is for privileged people only 😆

[-] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

That's not what that part means. The message there is actually good.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

turning the other cheek is not a good message

[-] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago

He's literally saying people shouldn't turn the other cheek. Did you even read it?

He's saying privileged people shouldn't turn the other cheek, and that oppressed people should turn the other cheek for some reason. That's what I'm focusing on.

[-] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

No, he's very obviously not saying that, as it completely contradicts the rest of what he's saying. Instead of assuming that what someone says is nonsensical, perhaps you should try for 3 seconds to think of a different interpretation.

That's what I'm focusing on.

Yeah, I noticed because of the way you ignored the rest.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed.

Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed.

Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed.

Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed.

Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed.

Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed.

Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed.

Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed.

Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed.

[-] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago

Yes, I read the text, unlike everyone responding to me, unfortunately.

[-] AF_R@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No, you really didn’t, considering how you failed to comprehend the basic meaning of the phrase.

Really weird hill to die on. Either you are saying people should turn the other cheek , which means victims of genocide, persecution, and just general crime should simply be a good Christian and lie down and die quietly,

Or you are saying people witnessing such events should also turn the other cheek and lie down and wait for their turn to die quietly

Not a great look. Are you Christian?

[-] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, I'm not saying either of those. Very strange to try to decide what I'm saying. Incredibly disrespectful, and you are not worth conversating with.

I've already explained this in another comment, and there's another comment by someone else (that for some reason is upvoted and nobody is arguing with). If you're gonna come to this late, at least start where it was left off.

Okay fine, I'm really not interested in getting into an argument over this point.

[-] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Nah it's kinda mediocre, especially for a manifesto. Like if he was just speaking off the cuff I wouldn't call him on this.

(CW: rape mention)Objection 1: As a Christian, you should turn the other cheek.

Rebuttal: Turning the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed. I’m not the person raped in a detention camp. I’m not the fisherman executed without trial. I’m not a schoolkid blown up or a child starved or a teenage girl abused by the many criminals in this administration.

Turning the other cheek when someone else is oppressed is not Christian behavior; it is complicity in the oppressor’s crimes.

Actually, if you are being oppressed, turning the other cheek is usually a suboptimal option. It's cool that he's doing...the bare minimum?...of saying "privileged people shouldn't be complicit in the oppressor's crimes", but IMO this manifesto is centrist learned helplessness at its finest.

Edit: turned down the heat, I'm critiquing the manifesto, not yelling at anyone.

[-] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

I don't think it's bad to be like "people who are in a privileged position compared to the oppressed are more morally weighted to stop oppression". It's not a contradiction to say the oppressed would know better what to do about oppression, but on the question of acting upon it it's easier to actually do shit about when you're not already crushed by whatever social force.

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