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Thousands of migrant children test NYC schools system
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So now migrants are a problem?
Glad we're finally on the sane page!
I think the issue is republican leaders intentionally causing harm to migrant children for their own joy and political gain. They moved them to areas like new york with the goal of overburdening and breaking the system.
It's be the equivalent of me buying 100,000 AR-15 and air dropping them onto a bus full of children; have a republican say wow these guns are a problem and respond, "oh so noooooow guns are a problem CHECKMATE"
Regardless, decades of actively fucking the people, land, and economies of south American countries have indeed caused a humanitarian crisis leading to migrants fleeing for safety and hope. Neither party seems to have much interest in proactively sorting it out. Reap what you sow.
So it's fine when it's a small border town, it's not fine when it's NYC, because we bussed them to NYC, to a place with more resources?
And accepting migrants isn't a long term solution, it's not a solution at all. What we need to do is fix their countries, and having their best flee isn't helping their countries at all.
Randomly relocating migrants to other cities with zero communication or planning with pure intention of causing harm to the migrants as well as the people of the arrival city for political gain is indeed a bad thing to do. I must remind people that cruelty and harm is the point of Republican policies. There was no thought that New York has resources so clearly this is a good choice of the health of either the city or the migrant to send buses there; else it would be planned and communicated ahead of time.
Let's use Texas for example. There are big cities in Texas if you weren't aware: Dallas, Houston, Austin - odd that there was no thought of sending migrants to those cities with all their city resources. There are also large other cities between Texas and New York: Oklahoma City, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Charleston, Pittsburgh, etc - it's almost like right wing propoganda incessantly targets New York as a city of Democrats and we must punish them. Cruelty is the point. There is no functional purpose of sending migrants to New York other than cruelty and chaos for political gain.
Ah yes, the cruelty and harm strawman again. This isn't about hurting anyone, it's about showing just how big of a problem dealing with them crossing illegally is. Apparently they can trek all the way up from wherever the fuck but the second you transport them to where democrats actually have to deal with the problem suddenly their movement is a problem.
Texas could reduce immigration demand unilaterally by prosecuting people who hire undocumented workers.
They don't, because they want a permanent underclass to exploit.
This is a stunt for the base to make it look like the GOP hates the status quo, but this is the system that they've intended all along: it provides cheap labor for their donors and red meat for the people who hate immigrants and cities. They're playing both sides of their coalition.
And I'd be all for that. I'm gleeful over the coyote felony law being implemented in Florida.
But they don't do it.
Which is my point.
Because it's about creating a permanent underclass.
So you're being used.
So let's hold hands and sing in front of some candles while some signs are being shown saying make any hiring or helping or even any conversing with illegal aliens a felony. Where will we hold this vigil?
You seem like a very serious person who has thought deeply about this issue.
My favorite part is how I explained twice how Republican politicians are not interested in fixing this and you refuse to engage with it either time.
That's the conservative calling card: pretend like you've got everything figured out, and when the obvious flaws are pointed out to you just pretend like we're talking about something else.
Yes, I'm sure you're a very serious and intellectually honest person who just needs to switch topics for very good reasons other than having no rebuttal.
i legitimately laughed at this comment rofl
nail on the head
You said your point was something wasn't being done, I said let's do something to get it done. I'm sorry if you don't actually want that thing done, my mistake for assuming you meant what you said.
And here I thought your philosophy was
But Republicans always think they get a special exception, so that tracks after all.
So to be clear, you do or don't want it to be illegal to hire illegals?
I think we're done here.
I have no interest in "debating" with a meme machine.
No just a yes or no, you either can or can't answer the question. You said that was your point, that they don't do it, so don't back down now, unless you want to rethink your position.
I think we're done here.
I have no interest in "debating" with a meme machine.
How is it a strawman when it really is cruel and harmful?
It is about hurting both the migrants and Democrats. As is typical for Republicans, the cruelty is the point.
How are the migrants worse off than they were at the town that didn't want them?
If democrats want open borders they're welcome to have them, so long as they take in the crossers.
Because their own choices matter — they went to that destination to be with their families and friends or to fill job opportunities they found. They are actual people with real feelings and ignoring their decisions to move them thousands of miles against their will as a political stunt is definitional cruelty.
If you don’t want immigrants in your town, you should move. Spoiler alert though, there are immigrants going to every town in the US. So you might have to leave the country and immigrate somewhere else.
They don't get choices, what part of illegal do you not understand? They should get sent straight back, but if liberals want them they can have them in their cities.
So you actually do acknowledge it’s cruel and harmful, you simply don’t care because you believe they deserve it?
You are an awful person.
Being intentionally obtuse doesn't help anything, but at least from your above comment we agree that New York and other Democrat cities can and should take them.
I don't think you know what the term strawman means, but I'll leave that aside.
Physically harming others and intentional causing chaos to prove a point isn't something a functional governing body should do. We return to cruelty is the point. This isn't about solving any sort of issue or assisting the fabricated issue of boarder towns in chaos (citation needed). The singular goal is cause harm onto others and feel vindicated by causing that harm.
Democrats currently have continued most if not all of the previous standards at the boarder. Please cite a single open US boarder. Where is this open boarder that people can walk accross without any sort of harm or law breaking? I suppose Canada is relatively loosey goosey but no one is worried of that. They can bring maple syrup and affordable Healthcare all theyd like.
Well yeah, its the only way to make illegal immigration an issue to the democrats.
And its only cruel to the dnc.