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Religious institutions and nonprofit colleges in California could soon turn their parking lots and other properties into low-income housing to help combat the ongoing homeless crisis, lawmakers voted on Thursday.

The legislation would rezone land owned by nonprofit colleges and religious institutions, such as churches, mosques, and synagogues, to allow for affordable housing. They would be able to bypass most local permitting and environmental review rules that can be costly and lengthy.

California is home to 171,000 homeless people — about 30% of all homeless people in the U.S. The crisis has sparked a movement among religious institutions, dubbed “yes in God’s backyard,” or “YIGBY,” in cities across the state, with a number of projects already in the works.

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[-] Exeous@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

This seems like a good idea, but it would have to be carefully executed. I can see two outcomes:

  1. Works out well it’s well maintained and everyone is happy
  2. Nothing is maintained and turns into a shanty town with the areas downgrading fast.
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago
  1. The religious assholes who own it force everyone to go to their church and support their sect.
[-] pezhore@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

That was my initial thought. In general, churches are seeing loss of participation across the board NPR. It would really easy to funnel the homeless into church if they're literally living feet away from the narthex.

And what happens to those who refuse to come and worship? Are they booted out?

There's definitely a problem with homelessness, but I don't want to see these people be coerced into anything.

[-] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Having been homeless myself, I have a hard time believing they can coerced of anything they don't want to be.

Being homeless makes you shrewd, as a matter of survival. You're average Joe doesn't stand a chance.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

While I agree this could be particularly harmful for the more extreme cults, I do see where it could be a safety net of safety nets.

I am not religious, I am an atheist. But I wouldn't have a problem returning to the church I grew up in if that was the housing I could afford for my family. The ELCA, at least from what I took away from it, largely helped me form my values I have today. Interestingly, it also helped me leave the church too, so not everyone's experience.

[-] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Christians who actual act like Jesus told them to act become the most persuasive missionaries, by accident.

If every Christian was as accepting, offered physical, real help while teaching future solutions, and treated everyone egalitarian, or the same, no matter their job, past, finances, race, etc* as Christ was then fuck, Id be a Christian too.

  • this offer not extended to bankers. Jesus even forgave his killers, but the ones he never forgave, and made him lose his shit and flip tables, were the money lenders.
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"I like your Christ, but not your Christianity." - Gandhi

[-] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I thought about using that at the end, ty for adding it.

[-] glockenspiel@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

Most likely outcome. These are the people famous for holding bologna sandwiches hostage from starving people until they agree to hear indoctrination pitches under duress.

[-] Exeous@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Possible, but I think if they allow the buildings in the first place they might not be the assholes who have the phobias. And if they’re on non profit land, they wouldn’t be religious assholes either.

But there’s always the possibility.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Possible, but I think if they allow the buildings in the first place they might not be the assholes who have the phobias.

The Salvation Army makes you go to services if you stay at their shelters.

[-] Exeous@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

WHAT!?! TIL, thank you.

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