Can I talk about what I’m learning listing to The Deprogram podcast in here? (midwest.social)

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I just got done listening to ep 6 “wtf is a socialism?” 1/3 of the way through ep 7 “Ls of former socialism”

Some things I’ve learned so far: Democratic Socialism is like only doing a cancer treatment halfway - the cancer will always come back because capitalists will always find ways to roll back the progress made for the workers/people. That’s because it’s the way capitalism is built (squeezing the most money out of all resources, workers included) and the concessions they give are just to stem the progression towards revolution.

If anyone questions the violence of a revolution, remind them that there is inherent systemic violence in a capitalist state. Ex: homeless population, the way poc and poor people are treated, and police aggression at protests, just to name a few.

Questions: Socialism is Communism, just an earlier stage?

Other thoughts: I was humbled hearing Hakim’s childhood knowing my country did that to him.

I liked at the end of ep 6 where they talk about how you don’t have to be a martyr, just contribute to communist causes in whatever way you can. Maybe because I’m just really delving into this, but sometimes I’m like “I don’t think I can start a revolution, but it feels like I have to.” Maybe that’s normal idk

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[-] happyandhappy@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

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Socialism and Communism historically have been defined multiple different ways by different people in different areas at different times. Marx used the terms interchangably. What we typically use now for clarity's sake is that Socialism is the stage of society that involves moving towards "Communism", where Communism is the classless and stateless society where all of every person's necessities are provided for.

From Critique of the Gotha Programme by Marx:

In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly—only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!