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  • poor leftists talk about poverty, labor aristocrats get uncomfortable and insist that sociological classes aren't materialist. "all that matters is that we're working class - we're all in this together"

  • black leftists talk about racism, whites get uncomfortable and insist that they're not personally part of the problem. "we mustn't allow the bourgeois to divide the proletariat along racial lines - we're all in this together"

  • female leftists talk about patriarchy, men get uncomfortable and insist that it hurts them too. "this men vs women stuff is reductive anyway - we're all in this together"

  • third world leftists talk about imperialism, americoids get uncomfortable and insist that red white and blue lives matter too. "what happened to the international working class - we're all in this together"

you don't have to invite yourself to every form and experience of oppression. anyone with a baby's consciousness of intersectionality ought to be capable of admitting when they have privilege

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[-] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

On the one hand capitlaism is the problem. So unless we fix thst the other problems aren't fixable. On the other hand almost any group to have real success organizing came from a special interest focus like that. So there are two wolves here both of them secretly liberals

[-] pillow@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

On the one hand capitlaism is the problem

patriarchy predates capitalism by thousands of years and it will continue to exist after the revolution. unless we make a point to specifically struggle against it, male workers will for their narrow benefit naturally reproduce gendered division of labor under a socialist system and therefore sustain the material basis of sexism. this is just one area where a smothering insistence on "we're all in this together" actually disfavors a less privileged section of the proletariat.

in other words, it's class reductionism

On the other hand almost any group to have real success organizing came from a special interest focus like that

this is definitely true yes, u are not fully a LIB

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