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“ We have unusually strong marketing connections; Vitalik approves of us; Aella is a marketing advisor on this project; SlateStarCodex is well aware of us. We are quite networked in the Effective Altruism space. We could plausibly get an Elon tweet. ”

From the short investor spiel document. Also they want to just bypass the FDA?

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[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago

the person behind it appears to be a "Jeffrey D Hillman", and this appears to be the first round: https://grantome.com/grant/NIH/R01-DE004529-10

probably worth someone digging into that to see what else may surround the person

from the "Safety Review and FAQ" document:

Will this spread to everyone I kiss? It’s very unlikely in non-immunocompromised adults. However, if you’re concerned, you should avoid kissing anyone taking oral antibiotics, or children.

"sure let's just casually become a walking science experiment and then thinking to first ask whether the other person is taking oral antibiotics. oh and children, because mouth-kissing children is perfectly normal to me, the author of this document"

this was from just like 2min of glancing at this mess so far and fucking what

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

also why is aella alone there the one with screenname? is her identity not actually public?

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In before NY times article prints her real name complete with hissie fit followed by transition to Substack and total abandonment of mask of deniability.

[-] saucerwizard@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

Its to do with her dad I figure.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

do tell? I'm not aware of this. I've mostly managed to avoid having detailed contact with these weirdos, and only in the last few years happened to encounter ... their profiles and such. to my knowledge i've not yet managed to meet any of the mainliners of this shit in ZA

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago

Iirc she comes from a weird religious background, so her not wanting to be connected back to that isn't not that sneerworthy.

[-] saucerwizard@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Her dad is a big dude in hardcore calvinist apologetics. I can’t remember the org name but like - hard hardcore fundies.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

there's a poetic irony in target fixating so hard on avoiding one set of weird nutbaggery to then end up as one of the central figures in another bit of nutbaggery...

[-] saucerwizard@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago

A lot of these people come from the ex-fundie world. This has been noted with other cults too.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

a hit on Aaron Silverbook, and the details are enough to make me guess this is them: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/17629744.Aaron_Silverbook

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