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[-] horsey@lemm.ee 173 points 1 year ago

I can’t believe half the country wants to vote for this deranged sleazebag.

[-] omgarm@feddit.nl 86 points 1 year ago

From an outside perspective I have been waiting for years for the USA to go "haha gotcha! We pranked the whole world!".

Please hurry.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago

Believe me, when this piece of rancid filth ends up behind bars, most of us will be as relieved as you.

Remember, he only won in the first place because our stupid fucking electoral college system screwed the country. Most of us never wanted him, and can't wait to see him in a jumpsuit that matches his stupid skin.

[-] FederatedSaint@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Believe me, when this piece of rancid filth ends up behind bars, most of us will be as relieved as you.

I won't be relieved, because at that point there will be thousands (millions?) of irate, brainwashed acolytes who are told that he is an innocent political prisoner, and that their country has turned against them, and the only thing they can do is turn violent and become terrorists.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Oh, that's certainly worrying. But most of them are Meal Team Six types. They'll piss and moan about it online, and then find some other stupid thing to be outraged about. Without Trump being in the public eye urging them on, they won't be able to maintain their hate-boners.

[-] SheDiceToday@eslemmy.es 6 points 1 year ago

I just pray that if Trump goes down, the justice department suddenly gets a little more feisty with certain "news" outlets.

[-] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

terminally online cookers basically

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

only thing they can do is turn violent

Conservatives aren't the only ones armed. They're just louder. This liberal owns more guns, and is actually practiced with them, than any conservative I've met.

Not that "more guns" is any indicator of ability, but let's just say this liberal won't be caught with his dick in his hand.

[-] riskable@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

a jumpsuit that matches his stupid skin

Can't wait to see the news articles about drones smuggling bronzer into his prison.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago

There was 2.1% difference in popular vote, so still close to 50% of voters who supported him, that's demoralizing and depressing.

[-] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well, only about two thirds of registered voters turn out. That statistic, minus everyone who couldn't vote (those under 18, people not registered, resident aliens who haven't gotten their citizenship yet, the massive number of our citizens who are incarcerated along with all the convicted felons who finished serving their time, etc) and it's like only 23% of the country wanted him as president... same coin different side only slightly more than 23% wanted someone else.

[-] patachu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I mean, when Thomas Paine wrote "What if the British colonies declared independence haha" it was supposed to be a trolly 4chan post, like NO WAY they were actually gonna beat the World's greatest military force in the 18th century ... unless?

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Violent, childish, vindictive, deranged sleazebag

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I was expecting voters but you went with sleazebag

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Conservatives have decided Trump is the person who most accurately represents them.

[-] horsey@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

It’s true, unfortunately. He’s a perfect distillation of Republican attitudes.

[-] ForestOrca@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

The GOP is less than 1/3 the voting population, so your disbelief is understandable and reasonable. The largest voting bloc is independent, by a significant margin. These articles are a bit misleading, as they try to fit everyone into GOP or DEM, but the Gallup poll showed, "Now, political independents (41%) greatly outnumber Republican (28%) and Democratic (28%) identifiers."

https://news.gallup.com/poll/467897/party-preferences-evenly-split-2022-shift-gop.aspx

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/poll-largest-percentage-americans-independents/

https://www.based-politics.com/2022/01/20/more-americans-identify-as-independent-than-gop-or-democrat-new-gallup-poll/

https://www.axios.com/2023/04/17/poll-americans-independent-republican-democrat

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The largest voting bloc is independent, by a significant margin

If "Left Blank" was a candidate in the 2016 election it would have beaten Trump and Hilary in several states.

Which is also a sign of how hilariously unpopular the Hil-Dog was.

[-] CoderKat@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Are you confusing blank for not voting? Because only 1.7M people left their ballot blank. That's different from not voting.

It's hard to make judgments about non voters, by nature of how they didn't vote. Some didn't vote because they disliked Clinton, yes, but many others didn't vote because they simply don't care what happens, they think it won't make a difference, their state is overwhelmingly in favour of one party (whether or not they support it), voting feels too difficult, to protest, because they're lazy, or many other reasons.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

Independent just means republican that can feel shame.

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Or a Democrat that holds a conservative position (like a anti-abortion dem)

[-] CoderKat@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

"Independent" doesn't mean that much. It's a self applied label that is detached from now they actually vote. There's plenty of people who consistently vote for only one party and call themselves independents, but for the purpose of discussions like this, they aren't. When people talk about republicans in contexts like this, they don't mean registered republicans or "self labeled republicans". They mean people who support and especially people who vote for republicans.

Being less than 1/3 of the population is also kinda misleading when only 2/3 of the population even care enough to vote. Sure, it's technically 1/3, but for all intents and purposes, it's half. The 1/3 who don't vote don't matter. It doesn't help people who are fighting for their rights that "technically, only 1/3 of the country support a lunatic". By not voting, that 1/3 politically doesn't exist. So it's effectively half the country supporting Trump.

(There's something to be said about how a good chunk of non voters are effectively supporting Trump by not voting even when things are this extreme, too. But it's really hard to make assumptions about why people don't vote, so I don't think it's worth focusing on except for the purpose of getting people to vote.)

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The non-voters still matter because they can still choose to vote. They're important and mobilizing them can make a difference.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's really more like somewhere between a quarter and a third of the country, not half, but that's still too damn high. I'm still hoping that Trump gets removed from a bunch of ballots in some states and not others and effectively splits the GOP in half. Even with the abysmal voter turnout the DNC usually garners even they should be able to beat someone only getting 25% of the votes, and maybe they'll manage to drag some congress critters and senators into the conservative civil war as well opening the possibility for a DNC majority of congress and the senate on top of a Democrat president. It would be the first time in literal decades that things could actually get done without the GOP throwing sand in the gears.

[-] nix@merv.news 7 points 1 year ago

Its more like less than 25% of the country. 50% of the eligible voters in the US don’t vote for anyone.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Because they're just like him.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

half the voting population of the country. i don't really know a good gauge for how much of the full population wants to vote for him. honestly, the version of conservatism that holds power right now could probably be defeated if everyone voted.

[-] horsey@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Right, it works out to something ridiculous like only 17%. Besides a more engaged populace, it sure would help to have more mail-in (and look at all the Republican bullshit about that), a day off for Election Day, and for voter suppression to not be so rampant.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately a day off, while I'm not against it, wouldn't make as big a difference as folks would like as the kinds of jobs already keeping people away from the polls would likely still be open.

[-] Techmaster@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

When you're white, your boss doesn't mind you taking off work for 10 minutes to vote. When you're a minority, your boss probably has a problem with you taking off 4 hours to go vote.

And I'm not saying anything bad about minorities, I'm only pointing out how politicians make it very difficult for minorities to vote. You always hear about the polling location at the black side of town gets moved downtown where they have to pay to park, or even find a way to get down there, and then there's only 1 machine for an entire voting precinct to share.

I have a lot of black friends and it's hard to look them in the face with how badly they still get treated. In 2023! When I was a kid you'd sometimes hear somebody say something racist, but most Americans have no problem with race. We are warm, friendly people and we love and respect our neighbors. But holy crap, some people just can't let go of their "racial pride." No, the Jews aren't going to replace you, because they aren't trying to. Your religion isn't under attack. Nobody is committing a white genocide. How is this so hard to understand? Stop hating people for no reason. If you allow that hate to fester, next you're making up ridiculous false stories to back up your claims. Learn to live with people who are different than you. And live to learn from those people.

[-] amorpheus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What makes you think that the "voting population" is some entirely unrepresentative subset?

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Because that would be a biased subset. That's not how statistics works. I'm not saying it can't be, just that statistically we don't have evidence of it.

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