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the ones who deserve poverty will remain in comfort and luxury and the ones already in poverty will die
it's nothing about individuals or "deserving" or anything moralistic. I mean that the west is fundamentally incapable of being progressive or class conscious or ending their imperialism until forced to and broken in mind and spirit. Like revolution is literally impossible until this pre-condition is met.
Remains to be seen how much material conditions have to deteriorate before anything happens, if ever. in and of itself sufficient humiliation + sufficient poverty ≠ revolution
america definitely deserves a century of humiliation but any revolutionary movement won't be born here, best we can hope for is a weak/collapsed usa allowing something to develop in the global south
You're right. Lenin listed three prequsities for revolution in State and Revolution. There needs to be widespread economic instability, widespread distrust in typical establishment authority, and an already organized leftist movement that has a coordinated vanguard party. Simply having humiliation and poverty without the third thing gives rise to warlords, fascists, cults, etc
The ruling class also has to have the inability to govern as they used to. The problem is that Israel is staying on the course with operating with more precision and repression to maintain their status quo.
Sufficient humiliation is necessary but not sufficient. Arrogant chauvinist leftoids sure as shit ain't doing a revolution with the people of the world until they have their worldview turned upsidedown.
"A symptom of every real revolution” - “a rapid tenfold and even hundredfold increase in the number of representatives of the toiling and oppressed masses—who have hitherto been apathetic" - Lenin
In the meantime:
“the task of the party of the proletariat in the capitalist countries to educate the workers and build up strength through a long period of legal struggle, and thus prepare for the final overthrow of capitalism” - Mao
I used to think this was. Now I realize that it takes one generation to forget. See also: Baby Boomers. Their parents and grandparents saved the world, they ran it into the ground.
The Soviets saved the world, the Greatest Generation came in late and took credit for it.
Sure but we conveniently forgot that communists saved us once.
Wrong: they HOPE that it will remain that way. These are the sort of people who tank billion dollar companies because they have always had and can’t fathom not having everything.