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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

11/10 I've been off for half the day. Gonna use this comment for a surge of updates. Will edit as I go.

Egypt and Iran agree to work together to provide medical and humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza

Palestinian drone strikes today: [sirens, not strikes, cause of sirens unknown]

Missiles from Lebanon today:

It seems that Hezbollah launched a massive wave of UAVs at Northern Israel

Israeli Channel 12: Manned paragliders were observed entering from Lebanon!

Asking all residents to shut down and hide into shelters and not leave

Armed fighters blow up the Lebanese border fence and enter Israel from the north

Israeli red alert system, Red Alerts across the entirety of Northern Israel.

The American embassy in Lebanon is being evacuated.

American citizens are advised to leave Lebanon as soon as possible.

Alleged weapons cache captured by IDF:

An F-7 HE-Frag rocket (made by #NorthKorea/#DPRK 🇰🇵), TBG-7V thermobaric rocket (made by #Iran 🇮🇷), PG-7M rockets, PG-7V rocket Chinese Type 69 RPG Launchers, Type 56-1 rifle and HAMAS-made M26A2 pattern grenades can be seen.

https://twitter.com/war_noir/status/1712132427408183713

Flares fired border with Lebanon (notice how these are nothing like the white phosphorous munitions, keep the difference in mind) - https://streamable.com/4oy62x


Ok so pretty much all of the above has now turned into "there are no strikes from Lebanon, we made it up, we made a mistake" from Israel????????????? wut


https://streamable.com/h4j70f

John Kirby confirms the USS Dwight D Eisenhower carrier strike group will be headed to the Mediterranean but says it will not join the USS Gerald R. Ford strike group as a second strike group, but will be available in the area if needed.

(called it, this is going to go to iran imo)

John Kirby: We're refurbishing some Iron Dome interceptors from our inventory in Israel‌‌

John Kirby: Civilians in Gaza are not responsible for what Hamas did‌‌"


Turkish army is attacking Rojava


[needs verification] Pakistan says it will provide missile support to Hamas if Israel invades Gaza


Fuck, removed some things because I was scrolled back in one of my feeds and not posting up to date stuff.


American Delta Force and SEAL Team Six said to assist the IDF in finding and extracting American hostages in upcoming Gaza incursion. - Levant Kemal

Channel 12 says Israel considering either seizing Gaza or not doing it but invading anyway just to look strong and then withdraw.

Hezbollah Statement:— We were not surprised at all by the political positions and field actions (https://t.me/PalestineResist/14375) taken by the American administration, especially the recent statements of the US President in openly supporting the zionist killing machine and aggression against the Palestinian people. This is the true essence of the complete American policy in its continuous support for aggression and terrorism since the establishment of this usurping occupying entity.

We consider the United States to be a full partner in zionist aggression, and we hold it fully responsible for the killings, crimes, siege, destruction of homes and houses, and horrifying massacres against innocent civilians, including children, women, and the elderly.

We call on the masses of our Arab and Islamic nation, which knows the ugly truth of America and its aggression against the peoples of our nation in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, to condemn the American intervention along with its international and regional partners and to expose this intervention at all political, popular, media and legal levels and in various regional and international forums and gatherings.

Sending aircraft carriers to the region with the aim of raising the morale of the enemy and its frustrated soldiers reveals the weakness of the zionist military machine despite the crimes and massacres it commits, and thus its need for continuous external support to provide this temporary usurping entity with the means of life. Therefore, we affirm that this step will not frighten the peoples of our nation or the factions.

The resistance is ready for confrontation until final victory and complete liberation is achieved.

https://streamable.com/sbl1sf

Palestinian ambassador for the United Nations addressed the international community and asked them to take responsibility and step into the picture to put and end to the slaughter of the Palestian people and send urgent humanitarian aid to avid a looming catastrophe, the Palestian National Authority is working for a cease fire and the reopening of the Egyptian border to allow humanitarian aid in the Gaza strip.


Ok I think that catches up on half the day, or at least close to it. Gonna go back to normal posting.

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

the map shows sirens that went off, not drone strikes. there were no drones. cause is still a bit of a mystery, consensus appears to be forming around "it was an accidental trigger of the system" but it did get about a million settlers to piss their pants in fear and run to shelters so that's nice

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

I see. Edited. I'm posting and catching up in realtime.

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

awoo you're a fucking monster. appreciate all the work you're doing in this thread girl!

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

I just don't really want to miss the key points myself and it's fairly easy to spam around updates in a few of the places I frequent.

I think it's really valuable to be on top of this in realtime, the mistakes increase media literacy, you get a feel for the process of propaganda and narrative change over time, and I'm particularly interested in following and learning from the strategic layer.

If we ever end up in a situation where we are doing things in the "garden" the things we learn from engaging like this may be useful.

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Turkish army is attacking Rojava

if ya side with the west, you get whats coming to ya

[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

That Pakistan threat is credible in that it's a nuclear power threatening another nuclear power. So uhh that could escalate badly.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

It's being reported elsewhere so I'm assuming that it's true.

Definitely one of the more eyebrow raising threats we've seen so far. But hey let's be real here if Palestine is getting liberated Israel genuinely isn't going to just go into the night without using a nuke on something. I don't think there's any pretending that a nuclear state will just not use its last resort, it will, right before the end.

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