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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

if Hezbollah and others don't intervene sooner or later and they just let Israel raze Gaza to the ground then it honestly does prompt the question of what these organizations are even, like, doing. "Oh, my militant group that I basically explicitly formed to fight Israel isn't going to get involved because Israel didn't spin three times in a circle, clap their hands, and say "Abracadra" as we warned them would be our condition for entry, so now, instead of hitting Israel when it is at its weakest in the last 50 years, we'll just wait for them to demolish every Palestinian settlement and then hope that something comes around in 2035 I guess. Maybe the US will lose all its aircraft carriers in a hurricane or something."

Like, I'm not saying that Hezbollah and Iran and whatever should be fervently marching into a potential nuclear scenario if that isn't what the "pragmatic, realist, sensible" analysis of the situation dictates. Like, as utterly callous as it might be, if Iran and friends had decided in like 2010 that "It sucks, but we just can't do anything because the threat that Israel will nuke Tehran and Beirut and other places is too high, and would lead to more suffering than if we tried to help Palestine, so we're disbanding our groups," then I would at least be like "Well, Gaza and the West Bank are on their own, then, and they can't really rely on outsiders to march in to save them." No, Iran and Hezbollah still exist and are still pretty fervently anti-Israel and want its destruction one way or another, and want to help the Palestinian people, and have massive arsenals of weaponry and rockets and drones and thousands and thousands of trained men and so on, seemingly despite the potential nuclear (or indeed conventional) threat from Israel and the West. So if they don't help now then I can't see what exactly would be the impetus for anti-Israel actions in the future once Gaza is a depopulated pile of rubble, even if a substantial amount of the Israeli army was destroyed in the process. Once the Palestinians are gone, whether all killed or forcibly moved elsewhere - and I don't see why Israel's government would allow Gaza and the West Bank to exist as Palestinian settlements any further from this point on if there's a possibility that October 7th could happen again in a few years - then like... that's basically it, surely? Not much point if there's nothing and nobody left to save?

Really hoping that they're just saying that they'll only hit Israel if they invade Gaza, but are actually buying time to get everything in position and hoping that they can scare Israel into not rampaging in, and will just start blasting out of nowhere one day. I understand that it takes time to rev everything up for war, get supply chains set up, get units in position, get intelligence, etc, and Hezbollah didn't know anything in advance so couldn't really prepare in advance.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I think they're just waiting for Friday honestly

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Well it hasn't even been a full week yet.

Let's wait and see what decades the next week has in store for us.

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Breaking: Hezbollah said you should :vote: harder

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