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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Israel be like: We will stop all humanitarian aid to Gaza until our hostages are released

Liberals: BUT HAMAS DOESNT CARE FOR THE AVERAGE PALESTINIAN!

Why do they make this weird connection? Lmfao, does Israel even think of the average palestinian as something more than mere targets you fucking asshole? Becuase if they did they wouldn't be destroying random buildings inside the city. In fact, all power is on Israel side. They have the power to cut off aid, they have the power to cut off supplies, they have the power to bomb Gaza bit by bit until nothing exists. What they fuck are they talking about Hamas here lmfao, do they not understand the balance of power? Do they not understand that with or without Hamas, Gaza has been always at the mercy of Israel?

Plus, they don't seem to understand what Hamas is, they think of it as this super secret comically evil terrorist organization when, in reality, they're a political party with a militant wing lol, like, they form government in Gaza, they are Gaza's institutional life, they have reciprocity with the common Gazans, I'll give you institutions and you give me legitimacy, common political life shit, in essence it's no different than the fucking Democratic party. They don't understand this, they don't understand that Hamas is what keeps Gaza literally alive at this stage, all things considered. They are even held accountable by the Gazans, this is why they must keep shit running and rockets flying against Israel, they have to keep validating their rule and to represent their people because their base of legitimacy IS the people of Gaza. Is it cool? No, I wish it was someone else actually, but if you want someone to blame do so on Israel, not the starved Gazan who never even had the fair chance to decide the fate of his people. When you've been under siege for your entire life, when all you see around you is death and destruction at the hands of the IDF, you want the guys who can pick up a gun and fight back against them.

They see Israel is about to commit genocide on Palestinians yet they continue to insist on fucking Hamas, give me a fucking break, they just see whatever they want to see. Fucking hell I hate liberals with all my being, at the very least conservatives while being the pieces of shit they are, they are straight about what they fucking want, no funny decorations like "love for all" or "respect", they fucking want you dead and they let you know it. Liberals are cynical, disingenuous, they are the most vile shit I get to see right up with fucking nazis. They want us dead but first they'll lie to us with cute words.

But like I've said before: The underlying issue for liberals and Palestine is that they can't stand global south people standing up to one of their own, they can't conceive the idea of near starved people fighting for their freedom and achieving victory against one of their own. They're scared to their core by just thinking of that. Palestine will win, and they will set the stage for the ultimate destruction of the wicked world order the liberals and their reactionary friends have built. FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE.

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Plus, they don't seem to understand what Hamas is

Correct

[-] gabaghoul@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

For a tiny nation state, they sure do commit a lot of human rights violations.

[-] ziggurter@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Liberals...do they not understand the balance of power?

It's pretty quintessential to liberalism that they either do not understand it or have to pretend they don't. Since the whole point of liberalism is to preserve the power relations, they always, always, always have to tell those without power that all they have to do is comply with authority and appeal to authority in order to get what they want/need (i.e. pretend the power relations either don't actually exist or somehow don't matter).

So yeah: I'd say that it's kind of definitional, in fact, and nobody should be particularly surprised by the liberal reaction (disgusted by it, of course, but not surprised).

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