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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago
[-] Sandinband@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

I guess I'm just amazed at people just knowing the military capabilities of a lot of countries but also the limitations of specific equipment. Like someone talking about drones earlier knowing that basically only Russia has shit that can shoot them down or other people knowing how specific battles went down with specific equipment

Like I know its history but are they just watching the news for this info and memorizing it or are there books that go into detail with more modern events?

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Like someone talking about drones earlier knowing that basically only Russia has shit that can shoot them down

Lol that was me. Just to be clear, I wasn’t saying that only the Russians have them, but from we know of the use of those weapons in actual battlefield (Ukraine) i.e. battle proven.

We already know that the Patriot missiles have significant flaws in shooting down Soviet era Scuds - if you read the article, some even argued that the interception rate of the Patriot missiles was close to 0% during the Gulf War against Iraqi Scuds.

On the other hand, we know that Ukraine had been firing several hundreds of HIMARS rockets against Russia every month (at least during certain months) and only a handful of them landed and blew up Russian equipments. You’ve gotta wonder where did all the rest of the HIMARS rockets ended up. There are videos of Russian Pantsir fire control panel that showed successful interception of HIMARS barrage, if you follow Russian telegram close enough and scroll through the thousands of video clips every week. So we know that they work to a large extent, we simply don’t know the exact statistics and how well under varying conditions.

[-] Sandinband@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Sorry for butchering what you said comrade <3

[-] SpookyVanguard64@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Like I know its history but are they just watching the news for this info and memorizing it or are there books that go into detail with more modern events?

I don't think (mainstream) news will really tell you much about military equipment, but yeah books & shit are a lot of it.

A surprising amount of the technical aspects of a lot of modern military equipment are actually public knowledge. Unfortunately this is mainly due to the fact that arms manufacturing is a for-profit industry, but the fact that companies are trying to sell their death machines means that they do kinda have to reveal relevant technical aspects of their products to the wider world for the purposes of advertising. On top of that, a lot of modern military equipment is actually quite old, or are at least heavily upgraded versions of equipment that is quite old, and so declassified information on older models of the same equipment can often give you a decent point of reference when trying to understand the capabilities of their more recent upgraded version.

So basically, historians & military equipment nerds will find as much of this publicly available info as they possibly can, and then write books, blogs posts, Wikipedia articles, etc. on whatever piece(s) of equipment they're interested. A good example of this is The Soviet Armor Blog, which has a lot of in depth info on the history & capabilities of a lot of the tanks of the Soviet Union, many of which are still being used by Russia.

[-] Sandinband@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the source and detailed response crush

[-] ItsPequod@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

There are several series of books published that go over the literal specs of many weapons systems over the course of history, such as these and my dad loves all of them, it's where I got it from

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